asian coin help?

[WatchCollector56]

these two coins were found in a foreign coin collection. I was hoping if someone could tell me their origin? year? and value? Thank you!

 

[taz42o]

Chinese. Second one a type of Tael . 1884 Kirin provence. Cannot say if authentic or not my guess is not.
But Im far from expert took me two hours to find that much.

http://www.cghka.com/english/pwm1_2_1.asp?id=4417

http://www.gg-art.com/news/photoshow/10683l7.html

http://www.kaminskiauctions.com/gallery/item/5520-19th-c-chinese-silver-coin

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/China-Silver-coin-Kirin-Province-Tael-Issue-1-mace1884-/260829722453

Get some accurate weights and measurements to help id.