I purchased this at a pawn shop in Palm Springs California several years ago. The gold is real and the diamonds are real. There were 4 emeralds on the corners. I had them removed. Is this a genuine coin. Or a replica? It had no certificate.
Thank you. I will take more pics
Perhaps it was from the estate of someone who died, or was stolen. Can you tell by the look of the coin?If it was from the Atocha not having a certificate would be a red
I would think it's common for a pawn shop not to have the paperworkIf it was from the Atocha not having a certificate would be a red flag for me.
What if it was stolen? Or an estate? I would think it would be common to lose the paperwork. Personally, I don't keep paperwork with my jewelry.If it was from the Atocha not having a certificate would be a red flag for me.
I dont remember what I paid. Over 1k I think.looks like a real replica to me....def looks cast, not stamped...especially the edge...
ballpark what you paid?
Thank you for your opinion. I'm looking for a stamped look...not a cast look. Good to know.I dont remember what I paid. Over 1k I think.
Without a certificate, there is no proof it came from Atocha. Any Spanish silver could be declared "Atocha" even though it was found in St Louis Mo. Certificate of Authenticity from Atocha increases its value without it loses it's value as being an Atocha silver.What if it was stolen? Or an estate? I would think it would be common to lose the paperwork. Personally, I don't keep paperwork with my jewelry.
Does Mel Fisher keep records? The fact that it was set in diamonds with Emeralds leads me to believe it was from them....they set a lot of things in Emeralds. I just don't know if they set their replica coins in real diamonds and emeralds.Without a certificate, there is no proof it came from Atocha. Any Spanish silver could be declared "Atocha" even though it was found in St Louis Mo. Certificate of Authenticity from Atocha increases its value without it loses it's value as being an Atocha silver.
But if it looks to be cast vsDoes Mel Fisher keep records? The fact that it was set in diamonds with Emeralds leads me to believe it was from them....they set a lot of things in Emeralds. I just don't know if they set their replica coins in real diamonds and emeralds.
Sorry, being set in diamonds and gold doesn't mean it is Atocha. Were the diamonds tested with a diamond tester that can tell the difference between true diamonds and moissanite, many people have put a bezel on Spanish silver, all of Mel Fisher Atocha's coins and jewelry were sold with certificates.Does Mel Fisher keep records? The fact that it was set in diamonds with Emeralds leads me to believe it was from them....they set a lot of things in Emeralds. I just don't know if they set their replica coins in real diamonds and emeralds.
Yes. Diamonds have been tested and are realSorry, being set in diamonds and gold doesn't mean it is Atocha. Were the diamonds tested with a diamond tester that can tell the difference between true diamonds and moissanite, many people have put a bezel on Spanish silver, all of Mel Fisher Atocha's coins and jewelry were sold with certificates.
The Spanish silver I wear has a 14K gold bezel, it didn't come from Atocha, it came from the Treasure Coast of Florida.
Since you enjoy wearing it and not selling it, it doesn't really matter, so wear it and enjoy it.
So does Mel Fisher keep records?Yes. Diamonds have been tested and are real
Yes, it is recorded on the certificate, without the certificate, there is no way to track or prove authenticity.So does Mel Fisher keep records?
The certificate has picture and certificate number, with out that it is a needle in haystack, you will never get them to search through thousands of records for one with no info .Mel Fisher organization had a lot of coins Made FROM the silver bars(probably tons of bars)they recovered from the Atocha . Your's might be one of them.They might have records on yours. dunno
I bought this one direct from the Fisher museum
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They might be able to (by narrowing it down to that particular coin design in the OP, with Diamonds & Emeralds).Thats not a common coin offered by them.The certificate has picture and certificate number, with out that it is a needle in haystack, you will never get them to search through thousands of records for one with no info .