Bent Trees ... Documentary helps explain

[Mark60]

didn't think much if this burled root ball until I seen the other one posted

 

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[Mark60]

Now if I could just dig it out and sell the wood that would be some treasure

 

[Hitndahed]

Here you go Chadeaux. This is one of my best. This one is not pointing at water. Now the question is Native American or Jesuit

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I would say neither,,, Way too young for either of those groups.
That one IMO had something fall on it at a crotch at one time.

 

[Quinoa]

I really hate to keep posting my opinion about trees, because it goes against what most will believe or say is common sense, but I watched that documentary a few months back with a buddy and we did find it to be a good laugh. Caches were buried along the trails and travel routes, so of course many markers will appear to be trail markers, and can even double for them. But they used them so they could be easily found again and retrieved , it's the easiest way to come back other than sticking a metal sign in the ground saying "I buried it over here", which is what people apparently want to find.

As for the the indians and their "heritage", I feel sorry for them, but many incredible treasure monuments I have seen have some old Indian legend or story attached to it. It doesn't make it purely "Indian" just because they attached a story or consider it "sacred" in some way.. I would post some of my trees, but trees are like a fingerprint and I would rather not show them around. For the most part though, you are looking for ones shaped like y or Y , squared U, goal post, or open topped 4. I don't have alot of experience with several of the specific bent types shown in the video, but of particular interest in the video were the ones that appear to me like they were made into a fox or dragon's head that looked or pointed to a spot on the ground. Those should at a minimum have buried markers.

And I have to ask why didn't anyone have a compass and find the closest bearings these trees were pointing? Common bearings I have seen associated with the goal post type, in which they use an anchor tree behind to line up thru the posts would be 330/150 and 240/60. These in turn take you to the boulder layouts off the sides of the trail systems. On the video ,they programmed the tree locations into a gps, and core aged them , but they didn't use a basic compass to see where they pointed? Quite funny actually.

 

[Chadeaux]

I kinda like this version more than a dragon.



This eagle is pretty neat ...



btw, not colored in, that is how he appears even today.

y, squared u, Y ... which one?


This is actually a boundary tree ... for keeping the peace. I spoke with the 90+ year old lady who owned the property. When she was a child, they had a tree house built in this tree. This tree is not the only marker in the area.

Yes, outlaws used trees to mark things, they learned it from the First Nations who used it to mark places, routes, etc.

Don't discount trees as all being outlaw trees or "hoot owl" trees. Some are definitely not.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

I would say neither,,, Way too young for either of those groups.
That one IMO had something fall on it at a crotch at one time.

This tree is very old tree. It's bigger than it looks

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[Chadeaux]

This tree is very old tree. It's bigger than it looks

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... probably doesn't believe Bonsai trees are real trees and not shrubs.

Look, anything you "bind" will have its growth re-tar-ded (slowed). When you remove most of a plant's branches, you slow its growth as well.

Both processes restrict the plant's nutrients from working as well because the photosynthesis is restricted.

A trail tree has all of the branches removed EXCEPT the ones needed to achieve the message. The trunk of a trail tree is actually the branches left over after the tree has been pruned (which was done when it was bent, not over the years). Any living thing that has its nutrition restricted while young will have its growth restricted to an extent.

If a tree has all of its branches removed but one or two while it is very young, there is very little photosynthesis that occurs in that tree until the branch takes on the role of being the new trunk of the tree.

 

[pat-tekker-cat]

Chad, Thank you, very interesting, as I have traversed the creeks and rivers of SW Ga, for yrs.
It's been many yrs since I have been back there, but I can remember of some who would talk about some (trees) and/or certain "interesting" trees. I say interesting, as these were early 1900's, mid/late 1800's farmers and hunters (some of who took in Creek Indian women as wives), who noticed and observed, that these were not normal trees. Their descendants kept this info, as they too, would use certain trees as markers (just makes sense, out in the big ole woods and all).
There was something about them, they do not "grow" that way on their on.

I especially loved the part where he spoke of "7 Directions". That's old old knowledge(I mean real old).

Chad, the link is where we used to hang out every weekend for years in Palmyra Ga. Took everything we needed in, on Friday noon, didn't come out till Sunday midnight, lol.
There's rich history and heritage here. Please copy this info, as you never know how long the link may stay good or the site stay up. Share it, pls. It's our history, all ours' history, pls help preserve it.

trippMCREE ? Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

One would be wise to not discount trees.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Your so right Chad. This is the rest of this tree.
This tree has no limbs except way up top

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[Chadeaux]

I guess the phone ap lets folks do things differently ... all the pics are turned 90 degrees counter clockwise.

Interesting pics BWB.

There was also something that was sometimes done to cause trees to grow an abundance of low branches. I can't find any pics right now though.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Here is something on that maybe.

there is more to this picture. For some reason my pictures are all scrambled up. Not to where they should be. Strange things happen around here. All categories are mixed up.

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[Backwoodsbob]

This tree is on a creek bank. Now I might say it's not old enough. But things are not what they seem on a site like theseshttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/589de956dd894/20170208_151857.jpg


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[kcm]

I guess the phone ap lets folks do things differently ... all the pics are turned 90 degrees counter clockwise.

Interesting pics BWB.

There was also something that was sometimes done to cause trees to grow an abundance of low branches. I can't find any pics right now though.

Don't know if you're referring to this, but it's common for many tree farms to wrap trees during their first years of growth in order to get more clear wood (no knots/limbs). It usually starts by using PVC pipe split in half and held on with strips of rubber inner tube to allow for growth expansion. But this has the opposite effect of what the trees in the pics show.

 

[Quinoa]

Here, these range from about 50-500 years old. On the big goal post one, there is a burnt tree behind it near where I stood that you line up thru the uprights.
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They all have lower limbs cleared away as well most nearby vegetation so they stand out better. They are quite similiar to an old forked "witching " stick. And I often call them witching trees.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Don't know what happened with pictures

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[Chadeaux]

Don't know if you're referring to this, but it's common for many tree farms to wrap trees during their first years of growth in order to get more clear wood (no knots/limbs). It usually starts by using PVC pipe split in half and held on with strips of rubber inner tube to allow for growth expansion. But this has the opposite effect of what the trees in the pics show.

The split PVC is not the same as having a restrictive (think tourniquet). Expansion is allowed for in your example, on a trail tree it is not.

Combine that with REMOVING all branches but one or two. Every branch on the side that will be facing the ground is removed, only one or sometimes two branches remain on the top. Do a bit of research on photosynthesis and you'll understand why the growth is severely reţarded (HATE TNET'S WORD FILTERS!!!) by the lack of sugars being produced which results in reduced ATP.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Thanks Chadeaux, that's good information to know. I know some of you can see the information on those trees. I'm talking about the Symbols and such.

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[Backwoodsbob]

You know they had to have extensive knowledge in order to make those. Not native in my book. Someone who has a higher education. People who had been around in the world. The priest come to mind. Maybe it was them that taught the natives. When they were expelled it was assumed that the natives had the practice.

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[kcm]

...And maybe the Native Americans figured it out on their own.

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Kcm,we may never know the origin. I do know that the priest or monks were master of their trades. I see their work daily. There are many forms of trees from around the world. It's not limited to the state's. So I think the practice came too them. We only see what's here. Look at those from other countries and you will see it goes way beyond just bending. It's my belief this is an old art form. Now I'm part native and would like to see it credits go to the native American. But I'm for the truth in things. So no matter who it came from. Learning it's meanings is what I seek here. It could be the spirit 's of the forest. Sounds crazy but I'm not joking either. I see trees with markings and symbols I find hard to believe is old enough. Then you hear of a group going around the world watching and remarking sites. I've been accused of being one. All I know is they're here and someone or thing has marked them. The natives and priest believed in the spiritual world. So do I.

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