big knife

captain redbeard

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Cayuga county, New York
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No points today, but Found this today just walking in spots of the field that I haven't really looked much. Found this sitting in between a row right on top of the dirt. I believe its a knife with the "knob" in the middle which feels almost like a finger grip, measures 2 7/8" long. I found one last year made exactly the same just with different material and the pointier end broke.


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Looks more like a preform, just from what I see.
 
Probably never actually used as a Knife, per se. I don't see any secondary flaking to put a sharp edge on it. Like old digger said, more than likely a rough Preform.
 
The "knob/grip" seems to be purposely formed/placed. I suppose it could be a preform. Here is a picture of the one I found last year and the one I just found. The one I found today seems to be more "formed" for use than the one that was identified as a "knife". The "knife" has the same knob/grip this one does, just a bit more crude, but seems to have the secondary flaking. I take into consideration time periods and technology. Also the fact that each artifact was made by a different person with different skills.

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soooo...preforms?
 
The thumb/finger grips are just stacks where the flakes came up short and left a high spot, they might have been handy, but they usually aren't a desired product in knapping or easily controlled.

A good way to tell a preform that wasn't intended for use vs one that could have been used as a knife or scrapper, is the presence of a zig-zag edge. A lot of quarry blanks (true preforms) have a zig-zag edge because it leaves some nice platforms for further reduction into a finished piece, and that wavy edge doesn't make a great knife or scraper edge in most cases. Preforms with nice strait edges took a little more finishing work, but could have been used for a while and resharpened until the biface got small enough to make a point.

From the looks of your pieces, I'd agree with Steve & Old Digger, solid preforms that haven't seen a lot of use. I'm not sure how far you are from the quarry, but someone probably banged those out pretty quickly to make their load lighter to carry back. (It's a lot more productive to carry 50 lbs of roughed out bifaces back to camp than carry a 50 lbs chunk of rock that might have flaws or cracks you can't see.)
 
hmm, interesting. Thanks for taking the time to explain why it is what it is, it definitely makes more sense. :notworthy:
 

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