Brass Sword Hilt (thanks to Lucus) UPDATED with new message SWORD FOUND
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Re: Brass... hmm... well something....
Wow, Jeeze your guys are not normal, Lucus took only 18 minutes to get this determined, and IronSpike was in there only a few minutes later. Thanks very much, both of you. At least now I know I cannot use it for the keg of beer that you can buy nowadays....
Now that I know what it is, I googled it and found a few more of them, the running count was 76,200 hits... I feel dumb, but of course I can say I have never seen (or paid attention to) a sword hilt. Looked at a few pages of them and came across this one, which looks pretty close!
Wow, Jeeze your guys are not normal, Lucus took only 18 minutes to get this determined, and IronSpike was in there only a few minutes later. Thanks very much, both of you. At least now I know I cannot use it for the keg of beer that you can buy nowadays....
Now that I know what it is, I googled it and found a few more of them, the running count was 76,200 hits... I feel dumb, but of course I can say I have never seen (or paid attention to) a sword hilt. Looked at a few pages of them and came across this one, which looks pretty close!
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Re: Brass... hmm... well something....
I don't see any gilding, you see the shine of the brass. It was almost clean when it came out of the ground. You see that also with good metal such as this sword hilt, they don't really go bad. Coins, from along ago were good, pure metal, that stayed good for quite a long time compared to the new coins from today. The Euros are exceptionally bad. The copper ones rust withing a few weeks, the gold colored ones get very discolored after being in the ground for some time. And the 1 and 2 euros is not any better. Funny to find a euro that has been in the ground since 2001 (deep) which is corroded, and a nickle gulden (before the Euro) that has been in the ground for 25 years and is still clean. But this hilt did not have to be cleaned up much at all.
Yes the Netherlands as it is today has not existed for long, since 1815. Before that it was a mess.
Yea, I posted my message at 7:01 and you at 7:19 (I guess you had to do something in between)Lucas said:18 minutes?
No, one glance was all it took.
Quality is not great, so I would look at military issue, say 1725-1775. It does look like it has some gilding though. Lots going on in the Netherlands in those years.
I don't see any gilding, you see the shine of the brass. It was almost clean when it came out of the ground. You see that also with good metal such as this sword hilt, they don't really go bad. Coins, from along ago were good, pure metal, that stayed good for quite a long time compared to the new coins from today. The Euros are exceptionally bad. The copper ones rust withing a few weeks, the gold colored ones get very discolored after being in the ground for some time. And the 1 and 2 euros is not any better. Funny to find a euro that has been in the ground since 2001 (deep) which is corroded, and a nickle gulden (before the Euro) that has been in the ground for 25 years and is still clean. But this hilt did not have to be cleaned up much at all.
Yes the Netherlands as it is today has not existed for long, since 1815. Before that it was a mess.
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I really don't believe it but I sent the information about the sword hilt to my detecting club (closed with 4 members). Theo just sent me a message:
"Strange two months back I happen to have a similar (sword, sword, saber, or rapier) for someone cleaned and preserved, it was found in the water alongside a boat in the port of Durgerdam (my hometown).
I hereby send a few pictures with the sword, before and after cleaning.
It looks really authentic from, and how it ended up there is a mystery.
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It sure is a great great find! Wish I could have found it!
"Strange two months back I happen to have a similar (sword, sword, saber, or rapier) for someone cleaned and preserved, it was found in the water alongside a boat in the port of Durgerdam (my hometown).
I hereby send a few pictures with the sword, before and after cleaning.
It looks really authentic from, and how it ended up there is a mystery.
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It sure is a great great find! Wish I could have found it!
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The best place to get more information about your sword block is from the international sword forum. Membership is free, and the members there are very knowledgeable. They also love to hear about detectorists digging/recovering relic-condition swords.
Here's the URL: www.swordforum.com
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Here's the URL: www.swordforum.com
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No problem IronSpike, this is the way we learn. Everyone knows something that others don't, and to share is great, that is why the Internet is just great. Everyone is sharing for free, well the most in any case. Thanks for your message.IronSpike said:I think both of them are awesome
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Thanks Buckles, great that you give us that link, it sure looks like a fantastic site. Will send them the details and photos... thanks again.BuckleBoy said:
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