Brass Tomahawk Pipe Found – ID Help Needed

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A friend of mine in British Columbia found this brass tomahawk in November and hasn’t been able to find out much about it. :icon_scratch:
Like how old it might be, where it might have been made, was the decoration added by the owner or was it done by the retailer.
Is this a piece that was
possibly used in trade to the Native Americans by early explorers or fur traders on the west coast of Canada? :dontknow:

Here are the specs:

The piece is 15 centimeters long by 62 millimeters at its widest part.
The shaft part is 33 millimeters wide and the hole is 25 millimeters by 29 millimeters.

Thanks in advance for any assistance! :thumbsup:
Dave
 

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Amazing find... Looks British made for trade...
Decorated by owner.
This LOOKS LIKE it was used in battle/fight... this does not look like "plow damage".

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There is one similar in the book, Indian Trade Relics, described as being British, Brass, circa 1780-1820
 

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Wow! I'm partial to the F&I War and Revolutionary War and that would be a find that would put me over the moon. May be (or may not be) a tad later but still outstanding.

Congratulations - Banner!
 

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I would love to have one like that
 

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To those reporting find for banner, while it is a nice artifact, this find does not qualify for banner, it was not found by a TN member.....


Posted From My $50 Tablet....
 

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Wow that thing is amazing!!!!!!!!
 

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Amazing find... Looks British made for trade...
Decorated by owner.
This LOOKS LIKE it was used in battle/fight... this does not look like "plow damage".
Thank you for your interest and for your information ARRC! :occasion14:
Dave



There is one similar in the book, Indian Trade Relics, described as being British, Brass, circa 1780-1820

Thank you for the information Mud Hut, this website was very helpful! :thumbsup:
Dave


Dave
That pipe is in creditable...if that "Tommy" could talk !
Gary

Thanks very much for your post Gary... if only my wife were this silent then I'd be really happy! :laughing7:
Dave




Thanks again ARRC! :icon_thumright:


Wow! I'm partial to the F&I War and Revolutionary War and that would be a find that would put me over the moon. May be (or may not be) a tad later but still outstanding.

Congratulations - Banner!
Thank you for your help with the ID on this Charlie, any and all opinions are very helpful! :occasion14:
Dave



I would love to have one like that

So would I, but I don't think my friend will ever let it go... not even to me! :laughing7:


To those reporting find for banner, while it is a nice artifact, this find does not qualify for banner, it was not found by a TN member.....


Posted From My $50 Tablet....

Thanks for letting the posting members know this Treasure_Hunter! :thumbsup:
I was surprised when I saw some of the members saying "BANNER", when this wasn't my find.

If I had found this piece, you can bet I'd be making a 'big splash' with it in the 'Today's Finds' forum! :laughing7:
Dave



Wow that thing is amazing!!!!!!!!

Thanks for your post Abe!
I've never seen one quite like this found here in Canada before, iron examples yes, but not a brass one. :icon_scratch:
Hope you're keeping warm buddy, :occasion14:
Dave
 

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I honestly have never seen one with so much detail. That's the killer part to me
 

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research HBC (Hudson's bay) trading posts. There were a lot of them from BC to Washington State. also the "northwest co" and the "pacific fur co", but I would start with HBC...also (less likely) the Russians too.
 

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Being a Native American Tribal member I know exactly what this is...It is called a Pipe hawk and we traded the French fur traders for these, it would have had a handle with a hollow tube running the length inside the handle which made the handle also a pipe stem, it had a specific use, our people would carry them while out on the trail, if we encountered a strange Native at a short distance the pipe hawk (depending on how it was held over head) would signal if we wished to befriend the stranger or use it as a warning to stay clear of us. Holding the blade up and towards the stranger meant that we would do battle if the stranger approached , if we held the stem skyward it was an invitation to sit and smoke a pipe together as new friends.
 

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Unreal just, Unreal what a find dang love to find a relic like .vanzutphen
 

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