Bullet ID

[JDug]

1.38 inches tall x .530 to .545 wide. It was hard to get a consistent width because of being 7 sided.

 

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[nsdq]

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[TD="class: FieldDiv, colspan: 2"]CS Nose Cast Enfield Pritchett .577 caliber bullet, M&M #232 variant. Bullet measures .574 diameter and 1.035 length with a cone base. Dug Resaca Battlefield, Georgia. Price $30.00

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this maybe ? try to measure os dia on ridges of the lands on bullet

 

[ivan salis]

withworth "hex sided" smiper bullet * civil war era --very very rare

 

[JDug]

Someone suggested it was a regular miniball fired from a carbine and was considered a stretchy?

 

[JDug]

withworth "hex sided" smiper bullet * civil war era --very very rare

Interesting , I look up some pics.

 

[ivan salis]

confederate whitworth "hex sided" type smiper bullet * civil war era --very very rare

 

[Mac232]

sharps?

i think its a whitworth bullet.

 

[JDug]

Here's the 2 whitworths I found

 

[JDug]

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[TD="class: FieldDiv, colspan: 2"]CS Nose Cast Enfield Pritchett .577 caliber bullet, M&M #232 variant. Bullet measures .574 diameter and 1.035 length with a cone base. Dug Resaca Battlefield, Georgia. Price $30.00

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this maybe ? try to measure os dia on ridges of the lands on bullet

I don't have it with me at the office, but this one is very close, and I've dug a few Enfields at this spot.

 

[nsdq]

this is close i could figure based on your measurements with similar appearance

I don't have it with me at the office, but this one is very close, and I've dug a few Enfields at this spot.

 

[JDug]

this is close i could figure based on your measurements with similar appearance

the measurements are very close the base looks off though..

 

[nsdq]

yes that is a issue but i may be wrong , hope some one else chime in with a hammer to nail for ya

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

I did some preliminary discussion about it with you in another forum.

First:
Other posters here are failing to notice that your bullet's diameter-measurement (which you said is .530 to .545") means it cannot be a .577 Enfield, nor a Whitworth (all of which are .45-caliber).

Second:
Because TreasureNet has an option for viewers to enlarge of posted photo twice, I was able to confirm what I suspected from examing your bullet's "proportions" in your photos. You've definitely mis-measured your bullet's length. It is actually 1.038" long, not 1.38".

Third:
It is not a "stretchie" bullet, although may have been fired from a Breechloading carbine. A "stretchie" is formed when a soldier loaded an "oversize" bullet (such as a .58 minie) into a smaller-caliber Breechloader (such as a .52 Sharps Carbine). The oversize bullet will fit into the Breechloader's chamber, but gets squeezed-&-stretched when it it is fired through the gunbarrel's smaller-caliber bore.

For visual clarification, here is a scan I made of some "stretchies" I own. They are various .58 bullets fired through a .52 Sharps Breechloader's barrel.

I'm still working at researching to discover what specific type of .52 rifle fired your minie with 7-groove rifling showing on it.

Your fired bullet definitely was shot from a .52-caliber rifle. Although your bullet's diameter is .530-to-.545", those measurements include the rifling-ridges' thickness, plus about .01" of lead-patina.

 

[nsdq]

i was guessing on that dia due to the way it was measured, and yes i know that it wrong but and my cw bullet experinance is zero if can nail it down go for happy hunting

 

[ivan salis]

with its diameter size being wrong for a whitworth -- they were 45 cal * --maybe its a a 52 sharps breechloader conical bullet

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

There are no Sharps bullets which have the wide, deep conical cavity we see on JDug's fired Minie-ball.

It cannot have been fired from a .52 Sharps Carbine/Rifle, because that particular Breechloader has 6 rifling-grooves ...and JDug's fired mine shows 7-groove rifling.

I'm still researching the various models of .52 carbines/rifles which had 7-groove rifling... but at the moment, I'm leaning toward the Perry .52 Breechloading Carbine (Confederate).

 

[JDug]

I thought something was fishy about that measurement. Forgot the zero. When width was .530 to .544 I sensed something was wrong but it just didn't click.

 

[ivan salis]

very odd bullet clearly

 

[nsdq]

maybe it is from a Ballard no 7

 

[G.I.B.]

Looks like it's got Jimmy Hoffa's blood on it-