✅ SOLVED Button ID .

[1942 merc]

Military button but what branch ?

 

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[SkaBa]

Army

 

[1942 merc]

Do you happen to know the year ?

 

[duggap]

In order to determine age it would be necessary to know if it is one piece or two. Most of the enlisted man's hat pins are two pieces. But the very early ones were one piece. FYI that is know as the great seal. It was adopted in 1902 and is still in use today.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

looks like a 2 piece but the photo is blurry. Is there a backmark?

 

[CRUSADER]

In order to determine age it would be necessary to know if it is one piece or two. Most of the enlisted man's hat pins are two pieces. But the very early ones were one piece. FYI that is know as the great seal. It was adopted in 1902 and is still in use today.

I thought the Great Seal or Army General Service Button had to be two piece because its post-1902.

 

[1942 merc]

It is a two piece and it looks to say the MT metal works newark NJ .

 

[nhbenz]

"Art Metal Works" is one that BigCypressHunter added to his great Great Seal button thread here: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/112828-great-seal-button-backmarks-help-3.html

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I thought the Great Seal or Army General Service Button had to be two piece because its post-1902.

Yes I think all the original military brass Great Seal Army buttons were 2 piece.

 

[Echoplex]

Congrats on the Great Seal button! I never tire of finding these and have yet to find two that are identical. They are a fun thing to collect as finds because of all the different makers, small variances in design, and materials used. My favorite are the WW1 eras because of the nice patinas they develop in the ground. Once you get into the WW2's they seem to get a bit monotonous. My favorite is a small 15 mm GS button by C Kenyon Co., which is a dark chocolate color and the only one that has that look.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

This button with the backmark can be dated 1906-1930s. My thread says the company name changed to Ronson Art Metal Works in the 1930s. From 1902-1906 the buttons were rimless.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Congrats on the Great Seal button! I never tire of finding these and have yet to find two that are identical. They are a fun thing to collect as finds because of all the different makers, small variances in design, and materials used. My favorite are the WW1 eras because of the nice patinas they develop in the ground. Once you get into the WW2's they seem to get a bit monotonous. My favorite is a small 15 mm GS button by C Kenyon Co., which is a dark chocolate color and the only one that has that look.

Have you seen this thread? It started out normal enough but has since grown into a nice page for Great Seal button identification. I need to update the list someday just havent had time. http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/112828-great-seal-button-backmarks-help-3.html

 

[duggap]

I thought the Great Seal or Army General Service Button had to be two piece because its post-1902.

You are right. But I was working on the impression that it is a hat pin and not a button. In the very early days they did make a one piece hat pin, and the one shown looks like a one piece, unless it is a button and not a hat pin.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I originally didnt see a backmark. Its also possible for some aftermarket non military buttons be one piece. But I dont include those in my Great Seal button backmark thread.

 

[Echoplex]

Have you seen this thread? It started out normal enough but has since grown into a nice page for Great Seal button identification. I need to update the list someday just havent had time. http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/112828-great-seal-button-backmarks-help-3.html

Was just reading through it and bookmarked thanks! I need to add mine one of these days. Just a few weeks ago I found an unusual one. It's a 15 mm screw-back GS. Haven't seen another like it and I'm thinking it might have been a special issue.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Was just reading through it and bookmarked thanks! I need to add mine one of these days. Just a few weeks ago I found an unusual one. It's a 15 mm screw-back GS. Haven't seen another like it and I'm thinking it might have been a special issue.

I believe the screw backs were hat buttons. i have seen many. http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=232678


When I get a chance, I will try and look at my Kenyons to see if any are dark chocolate. You can post a pic of yours if you wish.

 

[1942 merc]

I dug the dirt out of the hole and I can see it is a button .Two small holes just a bit bigger than a pencil lead . It also has a small dent right next to those two holes just big enough it separated the button from the shank , pretty much bent it over and out .Looks like a common problem . I think it is 21-ART METAL WORKS INC -NEWARK, N.J.- 1900-1930 approx. from bigcyps list . Thanks guys .