Can anyone ID these three coins?

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All are hammered and found in the US.

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That's the first one About the size of a dime, very thin.

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Third one is silver.
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I have no idea, however the top two were found on the shores of Delaware Bay, the third on the shores of the mid Chesapeake Bay.

Thanks for looking.
 

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Cool finds.

Second one looks to be a 17th Century Ardite from Barcelona: Principality of Catalonia (Spanish States) valued at 2 deniers. It should be around 16mm and weigh 1.6g approximately. This one is Philip (Felipe) IV (1621-1665), dated 1640 but not the only possibility:

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All are hammered and found in the US.

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That's the first one About the size of a dime, very thin.

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Third one is silver. View attachment 2110908
I have no idea, however the top two were found on the shores of Delaware Bay, the third on the shores of the mid Chesapeake Bay.

Thanks for looking.
Sweet finds! I am thinking these are coins that may have been mixed in with the rocks used as ballast in the old sail isn’t ships.
 

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maybe something like this for the last one?

 

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Thanks. I'll try to get some details for the first. We get all kinds of odd stuff here along the east coast. I found a Phillip II Maravedis at a Spanish camp in my county. History tells us they came up the bay and went up the river at that point and had a battle with the indians.
 

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Interesting coin finds. Thanks for sharing. Congratulations!
 

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all these sorts of coins were readily circulated up and down the rivers, coasts and colonies from New Orleans to Montreal and everywhere in-between. So much coinage was constantly in need and so many coins were used, accepted and traded. In parts of Canada even buttons were in circulation at one point. There is no need to speculate on how/who used it... suffice it to say, it was being used.
 

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On the Spanish one, 2 deniers I can see 1678. Didn't know where to look before. The site dates that far back. The one in copper, the first one pictured, does have cross hatch marks in the globe similar to the one Red-Coat identified. Probably Spanish also then. On the silver one, someone incised some tiny bird footprints around the edge with the toes pointing in around it.
 

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AMAZING fins Smokey :)
 

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Some history:
The "Ardite" was a small copper coin of Barcelona struck by Philip III (1598-1621) and by his successors until the middle of the eighteenth century. It probably obtained its name from the fact that on the earliest types (like the OP's) the portrait of the king separated the two letters A.R. (Aragoniae Rex) King of the Kingdom of Aragon.
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