Can someone educate me?

[mile-ender]

Dug this beauty up today. This is what I know mid to late 19th, British...what I don't know is - What is Military Train? So I guess I'm asking what the button's from? and I figure while you're at it - What's a piece like this worth? (I'm talking market, not historic)
Thanks!

 

[Montana Jim]

http://books.google.com/books?id=H1...resnum=3&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=&f=false

 

[mile-ender]

Damn Montana - should be calling you Quick draw!
Brilliant - thanks a million!

 

[Montana Jim]

You're welcome... no idea on value though. Maybe "Diana's Buttons" or some other British button website can help. I can't imagine it's worth too much, but who knows.

Good luck.

 

[RPG]

You're welcome... no idea on value though. Maybe "Diana's Buttons" or some other British button website can help. I can't imagine it's worth too much, but who knows.

Good luck.

Dam you're good. Nice ID.

 

[Iron Patch]

Cool find. This really rings a bell for some reason, think I might have read a little about this while researching something else a while back.

 

[ivan salis]

I say jims a good teacher -- seems to have "schooled" us on how fast he can find stuff

so 1857 to 1869 era -- british "military train" ( supply / transporation unit) button

 

[DCMatt]

Cool button!

I learned about military "trains" reading parts of the official Civil War records. Officers kept referring to "our trains" or "placement/movement of the trains" throughout much of their correspondence. It took me a while to figure out they were taking about wagons.

DCMatt

 

[ivan salis]

as in "supply train" --wagons full of goods amd supplies --vital since "a army travels upon its stomach" -- napoleon bonaparte

 

[CRUSADER]

as in "supply train" --wagons full of goods amd supplies --vital since "a army travels upon its stomach" -- napoleon bonaparte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_train

More likely this I think.

 

[mile-ender]

as in "supply train" --wagons full of goods amd supplies --vital since "a army travels upon its stomach" -- napoleon bonaparte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_train

More likely this I think.

No.
Reread the Montana's first post (from google books) then look at this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Corps_of_Transport
Eventually I'll try and contact these guys - http://www.waggoners.co.uk/ - for confirmation(?)

 

[CRUSADER]

as in "supply train" --wagons full of goods amd supplies --vital since "a army travels upon its stomach" -- napoleon bonaparte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_train

More likely this I think.

No.
Reread the Montana's first post (from google books) then look at this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Corps_of_Transport
Eventually I'll try and contact these guys - http://www.waggoners.co.uk/ - for confirmation(?)

I was talking about why it got its name ('train'). ie wagon 'train'. I know what the button is & agree with Montana.

Thats why I quoted the above explaination to the train bit from IS.

 

[CRUSADER]

£2 max in the UK. (that the value question answered)

 

[ivan salis]

a wagon train --was the armies "supply train" (one in the same beast) -- it carried their supplies of food, ammo and everything esle they needed --few armies could stay in the feild long without supplies -- thus they were vital --in several cases -- enemies flanking and cutting off or destroying the others supply train lines turned the course of the battle -- like napoleon bonparte said "a army travels on it stomach" --troops gotta be well fed & and equipted if you want them to fight at their best.

 

[CRUSADER]

a wagon train --was the armies "supply train" (one in the same beast) -- it carried their supplies of food, ammo and everything esle they needed --few armies could stay in the feild long without supplies -- thus they were vital --in several cases -- enemies flanking and cutting off or destroying the others supply train lines turned the course of the battle -- like napoleon bonparte said "a army travels on it stomach" --troops gotta be well fed & and equipted if you want them to fight at their best.

agreed

 

[mile-ender]

as in "supply train" --wagons full of goods amd supplies --vital since "a army travels upon its stomach" -- napoleon bonaparte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_train

More likely this I think.

No.
Reread the Montana's first post (from google books) then look at this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Corps_of_Transport
Eventually I'll try and contact these guys - http://www.waggoners.co.uk/ - for confirmation(?)

I was talking about why it got its name ('train'). ie wagon 'train'. I know what the button is & agree with Montana.

Thats why I quoted the above explaination to the train bit from IS.

Sorry, misunderstood :P

 

[CRUSADER]

as in "supply train" --wagons full of goods amd supplies --vital since "a army travels upon its stomach" -- napoleon bonaparte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_train

More likely this I think.

No.
Reread the Montana's first post (from google books) then look at this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Corps_of_Transport
Eventually I'll try and contact these guys - http://www.waggoners.co.uk/ - for confirmation(?)

I was talking about why it got its name ('train'). ie wagon 'train'. I know what the button is & agree with Montana.

Thats why I quoted the above explaination to the train bit from IS.

Sorry, misunderstood :P

No worries

I forgot to add although these are under appreciated here in the UK & sell for peanuts, it is a nice example (better than most of the similar dated ones I get) & must be worth more over in Canada/US. Its fairly scarce as well. Only seen a couple & never found one myself. 8) So if I found it I would be happy for it to join the collection in its own compartment

 

[mile-ender]

as in "supply train" --wagons full of goods amd supplies --vital since "a army travels upon its stomach" -- napoleon bonaparte

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_train

More likely this I think.

No.
Reread the Montana's first post (from google books) then look at this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Corps_of_Transport
Eventually I'll try and contact these guys - http://www.waggoners.co.uk/ - for confirmation(?)

I was talking about why it got its name ('train'). ie wagon 'train'. I know what the button is & agree with Montana.

Thats why I quoted the above explaination to the train bit from IS.

Sorry, misunderstood :P

No worries

I forgot to add although these are under appreciated here in the UK & sell for peanuts, it is a nice example (better than most of the similar dated ones I get) & must be worth more over in Canada/US. Its fairly scarce as well. Only seen a couple & never found one myself. 8) So if I found it I would be happy for it to join the collection in its own compartment

"happy for it to join the collection in its own compartment" - That's the plan - I've yet to actually sell anything I've found - the value was just an afterthought.

 

[Montana Jim]

The button is in remarkable shape - it will display nicely.