CART WHEEL PENNY OR IRISH TOKEN

[tinpan]

Hi everyone, i have had this copper coin soaking for a far while and i finally got a round to posting it.It looks like a cart wheel penny and has the thick out-side edge .The head one it is King George 111 but can only make out the date 18!!!!!! and is ever worn down and has 2 deep corrision pits in it.The other side show the irsh harp and not much else,also very worn.Its about the same size as a token but bigger than english penny of the victorian era.Any ideas

t.p

 

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[DJ_Quinn]

Tinpan, that's an Irish penny, with the English manarch on one side and the harp on the other. It was minted in Dublin, Ireland didn't mint their own coinage until the 1920s after Irish independence.

 

[tinpan]

Thanks dj,I found sometime a go in place called Irishtown which today is called bridge street,run along is the creek.

t.p

 

[dugupfinds]

Cartwheel pennies were only produced for one year 1797.
They where exactly 1oz of copper as they wanted the copper to be worth its weight ie 1oz of copper costed a penny at the time.
They were to big & heavy & no-one liked them so they were later used as weights.
They were also the first Steam pressed coins ever minted in the world by Bolton & Watt who produced the first Rail Steam Engines.

dugupfinds

 

[Leon]

Nice find, WTG!!!
You would think that the raised rim would have save the center from being so warn?
Still a very nice though...
Good luck, & Happy hunting~

 

[PBK]

Nice one, Tinpan!

I think that your find may be a variety of Wellington halfpenny token issued by Irish merchant Edward Stephens, Merchants Stores, No. 35 James's Street, Dublin. If so, the lettering above the bust portrait would read, 'WELLINGTON"; beneath, "ERIN GO BRAGH" ("Ireland Forever"). On the reverse, above the Hibernian harp would be, "EDWD STEPHENS"; beneath, the date 1816. Here's a photo for comparison

 

[tinpan]

hi,pbk thats the token and your the best, thanks


tinpan

 

[EDDE]

good score M8

 

[Michelle]

Nice.......Hi T.P.!