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Cellar hole - Update w/ site pics and 1809 Half Cent! And a small shield whatsit

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and it was right in front of me the whole time! :D I have been looking for this site for a few days now. It is an mid/late 18th c house/farm that disappears from the maps before 1898.

When the land owner gave me permission he showed me around and the first place he took me was an area he called the foundation for the "Smith House" - it was far too big to be a foundation IMO. It is a large stone walled enclosure. Next to it was a small dump with more modern looking items lying on top. I did a quick scan of the "Smith House" area and didn't get much so we moved on to the back of the property since the two maps I have both showed the site much further back.

On the way around the 30+ acres I dug countless shotgun and rifle shells. Found a gilt backed flat button in an old orchard area and then a lead ball and another button down the trail. I went over and over the area the maps showed the house should be but I found no evidence it was there.

Coming out from the back I turned a corner on the trail and suddenly was getting some iron hits :icon_thumleft: I looked around and realize there was a stone wall corner. This was not where the site was supposed to be! But it was definitely something. Found a very worn wheat penny in the trail and while digging found a small piece of stoneware. Yes! In retrospect I think this is a barn or outbuilding foundation but I will definitely investigate it further.

I had to leave for the day and as I went down the trail and got my bearings I realized I was very near the "Smith House" and dump area. So I looked at it again and suddenly I realized that dump area was dug out and there were rocks lining the sides! I felt like such a dummy! :laughing7:

I scanned around it and found another flat button, a tombac button and a very cool carriage plate which reads: J. Wheeler 2d Maker Jamesville Sar. Co., NY :hello2: I love this relic! I found Joseph Wheeler on the 1860 census for the area and his occupation is listed as "Carriage Maker".

Next time I go I will get site pics - here are the finds -thanks for reading! ;D

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Went back and got some pics of the site and found my first half cent! :hello2: Right in front of the cellar hole area. Very happy to find a good coin here. Hope it is the first of more! ;D

This is what I think is the cellar hole - with the modern type trash on top. I know I need to clear it but it is going to be a big job :-\

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This is the area the land owner thought was the "Smith Foundation". You can see how large it is - it is right next to the cellar hole. Maybe a garden area?

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Half Cent ;D

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Just found this today - can anyone ID it for me? Thanks!

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Very cool. Very good investigating. Sometimes one just haves to figure things out for ones self :laughing7:
 
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Very cool carriage plate. :icon_thumright:

I was able to find one this summer, also a NY carriage maker.
 

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Some nice Finds!!
great Coins and Buttons!
30 acres is some large area to cover, Keep it up, There's a jackpot there somewhere! :thumbsup:
 
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pepperj said:
Very cool carriage plate. :icon_thumright:

I was able to find one this summer, also a NY carriage maker.

these are cool finds!!! hey, can you send me the Barber dime? :laughing9: :tongue3:
 
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Nice detective work and finds! Carriage Plate is fantastic! Question - what is that large ring at approc 12:00 in your pic - is it hollow? I found one of these this summer and have no idea what it is.
 
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Thanks everyone! I went back today and have updated the original post :icon_thumleft:
 
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:icon_thumright: great work and it was very common for folks to later dump into cellar holes ;D
to fill em up and their garbage had to go someplace as well ;D
The other outcropping is more then likely a barn area,should be some iron there :thumbsup:
Good luck and congrats :headbang:
 
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nice finds
 
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Erik in NJ said:
Nice detective work and finds! Carriage Plate is fantastic! Question - what is that large ring at approc 12:00 in your pic - is it hollow? I found one of these this summer and have no idea what it is.

Thanks so much! Regarding the ring - mine is not hollow. My guess would be something horse harness related but you might be interested in this thread ;D

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,353220.0.html
 
Great looking half cent.. not sure if the shield is some kind of gun piece :dontknow:
 
That Half Cent is in AWESOME shape! Congrats man :headbang:
 
Thanks! I am really pleased with how the half cent cleaned up. I am still learning the ropes on cleaning but I just used HP and a soft toothbrush. Here are the before pics-

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And I should add - I realize it is difficult to tell but I am not a man :D :wink:
 
Really nice coin. I'd detect the heck out of that place. There has to be more.
 
Nice finds Bramble :thumbsup: great site , and the half cent is a beauty . Saddle shields are a favorite find for me !
 
Hello again!
Great Old Copper!
looking thru this post again, I think the item on left, first photo is a brass/copper measuring cup, found similar, has 1, 1-1/2 , & 2 oz marks, I think mine broke off from the other section. I never found the rest.
Check yours for markings!
Also a lead shield whatsit.
Great Digs to you!! :thumbsup:
 

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That is to cool, i found a 1809 half cent last weekend, yours is in much better shape.
I like the pictures.
 

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