Charleston Servant and Old Coin

[master mason]

Please let me know if anyone can tell me anything about these items

These items were found on my friends property here in South carolina. His property backs up to the River/ Creek. The area is very hard to dig because of all the bottles. We either broke them or they were broken when we dug them up. 75 % of the bottls seem to be Dispensary bottles, either purple, or pink in color. We also found indian pottery, colonial pottery, and black glass. How do you go about digging a site like this? The owner has young kids and want me to remove the glass so his kids will not get cut when they are on the bank fishing. The area of glass is probably 40 ft in length. Thanks in advance for your help

 

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[MonkeyBoy]

Wow, thanks to everyone for the response. The identification of the artifacts as well as the recommendations on how to properly excavate will been real helpful.

Any recommendations on the what books I should purchase for identification purposes? Also, should I do anything to preserve these finds or just leave them as they are? Also does anyone out there have a minelab detector, if so please tell me what setting I would work best at this site.


I am not sure why a couple feel it is necessary to dispute what I found. Here is one photo of all the items together. Hopefully this will help, I did not intend to cause any types on controversy over the finds. I am new to this and I am just looking for some help.

Nice follow up with the picture! I've dug a few bottles.. with the potential you have here, unless time is really short, I would dig with non-metal little garden shovels as much as possible! seeing a 160 year old + pontiled bottle break is an ugly sight!! Just go slow, sift and look at it as a couple month project.... and for the love of god do not tell anyone where it is!! ;-) I had one pit open for a year.. really cool landowners!!! So we could take our time....

MB

 

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[jb58]

some great finds-keep at it and keep posting what you find!

 

[goldcoastwayne]

I believe your 2R was minted in Lima, Peru; assayer's initial "N" --for Fernando or Joaquin Negron who was the assayer from 1728-1740. The date seems to end with a "6" so the date would be 1736.
Great find !!
Don.......

Nice 2 reale.... I totally agree with Don's observations of your colonial cob.

Wayne

 

[zaxfire69]

You got my vote for banner on the slave tag. I haven't seen a slave tag on the banner. First one I have seen on here in at least a year. I don't know why anyone hasn't voted banner for you. Congrats on all your finds man. That bottle is killer as well.

 

[bogeymcq]

Goodness gracious! I am lovin' the sound of this . . . I truly do hope you take pictures of the area & items for I believe you are on the making of an incredible adventure of discovery! And I would love to see it ALL

I flip over bottles so even broken ones I think are exceptionally awesome!

Please do take pictures of the property you are looking about & share here

 

[niffler]

When the bottles come out of the mud, DO NOT set them in sunlight...the temperature difference can break them...a cooler is my choice for freshly dug bottles. Niffler

 

[kuger]

Sorry for my skepticism,but realize you have made four outstanding finds,and then dropped off the face of the earth, that is RARE!I am excited for you!I would have that slave tag professionally preserved,and I can put you in contact with the right folks for that if you wish.Congrats and keep us posted!!!

 

[creeper71]

Wow, thanks to everyone for the response. The identification of the artifacts as well as the recommendations on how to properly excavate will been real helpful.

Any recommendations on the what books I should purchase for identification purposes? Also, should I do anything to preserve these finds or just leave them as they are? Also does anyone out there have a minelab detector, if so please tell me what setting I would work best at this site.


I am not sure why a couple feel it is necessary to dispute what I found. Here is one photo of all the items together. Hopefully this will help, I did not intend to cause any types on controversy over the finds. I am new to this and I am just looking for some help.

the problem with your post that gets some to doubt is you have serveral peice that are rarely found an We have had many people post fake finds on here..so some people assume when someone has that many banner finds that it was a madeup post to trick us... I am going on your word an believe you did find all these items.. With that said the pink or puce bottles you was talking about... I don't have the link anymore for these bottles but Iam pretty sure they are between 5-10 thousand for each bottle...... my quote maybe wrong cause I am going by memory... If you have any questions about how to dig bottles please send me an private message

 

[Iron Patch]

Sorry for my skepticism,but realize you have made four outstanding finds,and then dropped off the face of the earth, that is RARE!I am excited for you!I would have that slave tag professionally preserved,and I can put you in contact with the right folks for that if you wish.Congrats and keep us posted!!!

I would just to get the bend out so it could be laid flat to be displayed (and protected) I would not have any material added.

 

[ColonialDude]

wow!!! I need a site like that! Congrats on some very nice finds...and we should know doubt be getting many updates from you with lots of good pics in the near future if you came up with those that quickly. Well done.

 

[kuger]

Sorry for my skepticism,but realize you have made four outstanding finds,and then dropped off the face of the earth, that is RARE!I am excited for you!I would have that slave tag professionally preserved,and I can put you in contact with the right folks for that if you wish.Congrats and keep us posted!!!

I would just to get the bend out so it could be laid flat to be displayed (and protected) I would not have any material added.

I agree I.P.,but I WOULD NOT ATTEMPT TO DO IT MYSELF.Imho

 

[Flint-seeker]

Banner vote for me! And, don't share your location with anyone!

 

[allen]

you have a site that we all would love to have,
even if those are the only four good items to
come out of it !
take your time and keep us updated.

 

[2country]

You got my banner vote .

 

[birdman]

Looks like you have fell into a pocket of goodness!! LUCKY!!!

 

[Got_4by4]

A muddy creek bank is difficult but if you use a forked spade, similar to a potato spade, it could slip beside and in between any bottles that might still be whole. If you must use a blade, perhaps a hand trowel would work best.

Be careful and treat it as an archaeological site! You don't know what you might find!

 

[Tnmountains]

Master Mason lots of neat advice from these hunters. You can google just about anything but the people on here wrote most of what you will google. Great site go slow and keep the land owner happy and the relics will keep coming. Possible that in the area is more sites along that waterway.
Good luck and be kind enough to keep sharing your hunts. Best mixed group of items I have seen in a while.
Have fun!
TnMtns

 

[quarterroy]

Wow this is an amazing post. I can't wait for the updates. How exciting for you to dig, and us to cheer you on.