Chatter, chatter, and more chatter !!!!

Metal Monkey · Apr 27, 2014

I bought a AT Pro in December and all my sites I hunt are trashy. Meaning, I get a LOT of hits. Low, medium, and high tones. Now, my question is:
I hunt with the iron audio off, so I get mid and high tones, but most are spotty. I may sweep six to eight times, and get my tone three to four times. So then I turn on the iron audio and it explodes. So does this mean there is a possible good find, or is it just trickery from the iron and trashy targets? I hate to miss something, but then again, I hate taking 8 hrs searching a postage stamp lot.

gleaner1 · Apr 27, 2014

Okay try this. IA Off is good, pro mode is good. Dont use IA just forget about it for now. You gotta let more iron in. Keep sense low around five or less. Set iron scrim low, twenty or lower for a while. Let the iron thru. Listen to it, embrace it. Hearing iron is never bad. Digging iron is rarely good, but you wont be digging it unless you want to. The low tone pro audio on iron is good and stable and hearing all the iron is beneficial, you get to really know what and how much is in the ground, because you can hear it all. The machine will not "pop" high pitch on iron crap as easily if its not scrimmed out, the tecter will actually seem more stable. Sounds crazy I know, but try it.

Metal Monkey · Apr 28, 2014

I haven't used the pro mode yet, just because I'm afraid I am going to miss something. It's not as clear as the standard mode and seems pretty jumpy too.

GranvilleATPro · Apr 28, 2014

Actually not using pro mode is what will cause you to miss more good targets. Not the other way around.

AnnieF · Apr 28, 2014

Hey Metal Monkey - I feel your pain. I just keep relying on the wisdom of the "elders" here re: the AT Pro: TIME IS YOUR FRIEND. And I'm truly inclined to believe them. The more time you spend with the machine the more you will understand how it "talks" to you. And I understand what you say about the "pro" mode being confusing. But, again, just hang in there, keep swinging, keep listening... We'll both get there!

Kodiak43351 · Apr 28, 2014

The pro mode is the best way to hear the targets try setting iron to 27 sense at 2 below full. Slow down your swing speed and listen to the targets. Use headphones it really helps to hear the targets. A repeatable good tone is most Likely a good target but sometimes it's a aluminum screw cap. A high to low scratchy tone is a bottle cap most of the time. The medium tones are the hardest. If the VDI doesn't change much dig it may be a pull tab or if your lucky it could be a gold item. Good luck and forget the standard mode.

DCRJerry · Apr 28, 2014

You may want to try and turn down your sensitivity in real trashy areas. For me, it makes them more tolerable. There could be some good targets being masked by the iron, the only way to tell is to dig them and see what you get. I just picked up the 5x8 coil and am hoping it will help with these foil, can slaw & bottle cap ridden fields of pain!

Metal Monkey · Apr 29, 2014

I also bought a 5x8 coil for that reason. Just hadn't tried it yet.

freddy78 · Apr 30, 2014

You will love the 5x8 promise. Its my main coil. Only time I switch is if I'm in open fields with little trash. It gets good depth for me and pinpointing is right on

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Metal Monkey · Apr 30, 2014

That's good to hear. I actually called Garrett about my bigger coil. Telling them that if I hit a stick, cut plant, whatever, it dings. He said to try the smaller coil, but to factory reset every time you switch. To also reset periodically. Like rebooting your cell phone.

Diggin-N-Dumps · Apr 30, 2014

Metal Monkey said:
I haven't used the pro mode yet, just because I'm afraid I am going to miss something. It's not as clear as the standard mode and seems pretty jumpy too.

Thats your biggest issue it sounds like. STANDARD MODE is garbage....And you mentioned that you will get low tones and high tones when sweeping, then you turn on the IA and it explodes? That means its probally Iron...Once you figure this beast out. You will know what tones are good to hit.

Mine Chatter too when i first started using it. But eventually i figured out what it was telling me. And that Smaller Coil (5x8) makes the whole machine worth it...its a Must have

gleaner1 · May 1, 2014

Pro mode, zero iron, zero scrim, max sense, big coil, no chatter. Ever.

bzbadger · May 2, 2014

No disrespect to the others here but here are some useful tips. Make sure your coil cable is tight, not tight causes chatter. Turn machine on turn your sensitivity to half and auto ground balance once done turn back up to two below max, reason why is if you GB it at maximum it sets the machine so that it tunes out a lot(from Garrett tech) tried it and works great. As far as listening to the iron so u can understand it?! What's to understand its iron, and the soil itself can have iron deposits and who wants to hear that crap anyway no place for feel the force luke guru stuff. Turn your iron discrim to about 30-35 unless u really want to hunt old broken plow blades and horseshoes. If u find a target and it doesn't have a clicking sound before and after the tone or a grunt before and after and u see a repeatable number not one that's jumping more than 5 numbers it should be good but please keep it on pro zero mode its a huge benefit because the next tip will keep u from digging crap all the time. After u find your good signal, lift your coil up 6-8 inches above the target and swing a few times, if u still hear the target and its still loud well guess what it is trash, either foil, a can etc. Size your target too. Find where the target signals, walk your coil forward until the signal stops and if the area it began and ended is bigger than a coin/ring its probably junk. Use both methods of target ID..size and coil raise and save yourself digging time. Oh and use the iron audio to check your target, don't leave it on but use it to check a target. If you are getting chatter change your frequency, you have four to chose from use them. There's some other tricks to make it signal deeper but stick with this for now till u get it down.

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gleaner1 · May 3, 2014

MM, any decent tecter will chatter under high power lines or in the house or crosstalking with other tecters. Any good tecter will report on each and every target it sees. So if its a really trashy area, it will sound really busy, but its not chatter, its just a lot of signals from a lot of metal crap in the ground. What I am trying to say is that if you are not in the house, and not directly under power lines, and you are not next to a guy with a cz, then you are not getting chatter.

Fletch88 · May 3, 2014

Metal Monkey said:
I haven't used the pro mode yet, just because I'm afraid I am going to miss something. It's not as clear as the standard mode and seems pretty jumpy too.

You've had the machine for 5 months and haven't tried Pro Mode? Wow.

bottlecap · May 3, 2014

I have been running Pro Zero mode with the iron discrim up to 35 and sensitivity two bars below full with the 5x8 coil at parks where there is a lot of trash and it as been working very well.

Metal Monkey · May 4, 2014

I know, I know. It's just I don't get out much, so when I do, I don't want to miss anything. Pro mode is just harder to find a target right now. I'm just trying to learn my machine. Especially pin pointing the exact location of the target with the coil.