Cipher 1 cannot be solved!

[chalkoutline]

I have posted several times about how the alphabetical strings were added to redact parts of the Cipher 1 message. Since this was just a theory, I decided to conduct a test to make sure I was telling the group the truth.

1. I pretended I found the “correct document”.

2. I created a fake Cipher 1 message using the same style as that used in the Cipher 2 message:
"start at bufords head west towards sion church for two miles when your each Williams take the road north for one and one half miles along oteys farm go right at the fork until you reach the west branch of goose creek follow the creek one eight of a mile where the west branch meets the west branch of goose creek follow the east branch north for one quarter mile where you will find a large rock out crop go southeast following the terrain towards the two large peaks for a half mile Head east between the two large peaks on the far side of the peaks head south to a granite out crop and locate a rock marker dig six feet down for the treasure"

3. In the attached PDF, most of this Fake Cipher 1 message is readable.
The portions of the message highlighted in GREEN are the locations of the four alphabetical strings. Since the cipher numbers in the GREEN locations came from the Key created by the DOI and not the “correct document”…they produce gibberish or garbage letters.

4. The letters of the message highlighted in YELLOW identify letters that also use cipher numbers found in the alphabetical strings.
Since most of those highlighted in YELLOW are individual letters, I would suspect that most people would be able to figure out what that letter should be thus revealing even more of the message. (i.e., Wheel of Fortune)

5. The RED letters in the GREEN highlighted portions of the message identify those letters that are also used individually and thus be filled in with the correct letter of the message. However, I do not believe anyone would be able to figure out the correct letters in strings 1, 3 and 4. Below is the redacted string and the directions its hiding

String 1: only two out of 10 can be decoded
BTAOSETWTS => tWO MILES WHEn

String 3: only one out of 7 can be decoded
PBGEANB => alONG OTEYS

String 4: only three out of 21 can be decoded
HWTIFSEMGTOATISTSTOBA =>
crEEK ONE EIGTH OF A MILE WHEre

Conclusion: Based on this test and analysis, I contend…even if the treasure is real and you find the correct document for Cipher 1, you will not be able to follow the directions to the treasure because too much of the message is redacted by the intentionally inserted alphabetical strings.

The only way to decode Cipher 1 is with the KEY that was not sent from St. Louis.

 

[Panda]

You're great, you almost figured it out... but the text isn't quite right, so it doesn't add up.

I have posted several times about how the alphabetical strings were added to redact parts of the Cipher 1 message. Since this was just a theory, I decided to conduct a test to make sure I was telling the group the truth.

1. I pretended I found the “correct document”.

2. I created a fake Cipher 1 message using the same style as that used in the Cipher 2 message:
"start at bufords head west towards sion church for two miles when your each Williams take the road north for one and one half miles along oteys farm go right at the fork until you reach the west branch of goose creek follow the creek one eight of a mile where the west branch meets the west branch of goose creek follow the east branch north for one quarter mile where you will find a large rock out crop go southeast following the terrain towards the two large peaks for a half mile Head east between the two large peaks on the far side of the peaks head south to a granite out crop and locate a rock marker dig six feet down for the treasure"

3. In the attached PDF, most of this Fake Cipher 1 message is readable.
The portions of the message highlighted in GREEN are the locations of the four alphabetical strings. Since the cipher numbers in the GREEN locations came from the Key created by the DOI and not the “correct document”…they produce gibberish or garbage letters.

4. The letters of the message highlighted in YELLOW identify letters that also use cipher numbers found in the alphabetical strings.
Since most of those highlighted in YELLOW are individual letters, I would suspect that most people would be able to figure out what that letter should be thus revealing even more of the message. (i.e., Wheel of Fortune)

5. The RED letters in the GREEN highlighted portions of the message identify those letters that are also used individually and thus be filled in with the correct letter of the message. However, I do not believe anyone would be able to figure out the correct letters in strings 1, 3 and 4. Below is the redacted string and the directions its hiding

String 1: only two out of 10 can be decoded
BTAOSETWTS => tWO MILES WHEn

String 3: only one out of 7 can be decoded
PBGEANB => alONG OTEYS

String 4: only three out of 21 can be decoded
HWTIFSEMGTOATISTSTOBA =>
crEEK ONE EIGTH OF A MILE WHEre

Conclusion: Based on this test and analysis, I contend…even if the treasure is real and you find the correct document for Cipher 1, you will not be able to follow the directions to the treasure because too much of the message is redacted by the intentionally inserted alphabetical strings.

The only way to decode Cipher 1 is with the KEY that was not sent from St. Louis.

 

[johnnyrev]

It has been decoded. It can be decoded. I have decoded it!

 

[Panda]

I also deciphered all 3 texts.

 

[TruthbeTold]

Wow!

If it can’t be solved how is it that many here have stated that they solved it?

Of course every solve is different and many mentions of “what if” and “could it be” are included in the explanations.

And none of the solves produced any fantastical treasure.

 

[chalkoutline]

It has been decoded. It can be decoded. I have decoded it!

I have always admired those who solved the Beale ciphers because it is something i was never able to do. I always got stuck by the alphabetical strings that appear when you apply the Cipher 2 KEY created from the DOI to Cipher 1.

However, I also wasn't satisfied that the strings proved the 3 ciphers were a hoax so I treated them as real and did a deep dive into how TB might have created them.

I have shared various parts of my results in different posts which might have made it hard to understand so I put everything in one document which is attached.

My conclusion remains the same. The 4 alphabetical strings redact key parts of the Cipher 1 message that cannot be decoded or recreated. The only way to solve them is with the original KEYs that never arrived from St. Louis.

Feel free to review my research and tell me where and why I got it wrong and I will be more than happy to admit i was wrong.
-CO

 

[Panda]

Wow!

If it can’t be solved how is it that many here have stated that they solved it?

Of course every solve is different and many mentions of “what if” and “could it be” are included in the explanations.

And none of the solves produced any fantastical treasure.

 

[Panda]

I won't speak for everyone... I have enough coincidences to say that the cipher works... he hid not gold, but a map and keys... the gold is in the primary... the gold of the heirs, the remains of the gold, solve the cipher... in the primary hiding place there is not only gold, but also documents that explain everything... this historical treasure will not go to anyone, only the state will remain...

 

[chalkoutline]

I won't speak for everyone... I have enough coincidences to say that the cipher works... he hid not gold, but a map and keys... the gold is in the primary... the gold of the heirs, the remains of the gold, solve the cipher... in the primary hiding place there is not only gold, but also documents that explain everything... this historical treasure will not go to anyone, only the state will remain...

Some of your reply is hard to read and understand but I think your saying there are two stashes:
1. The primary containg gold and documents
2. The remaining gold for the heirs.

So which stash does Cipher 1 lead you to?

 

[Panda]

Some of your reply is hard to read and understand but I think your saying there are two stashes:
1. The primary containg gold and documents
2. The remaining gold for the heirs.

So which stash does Cipher 1 lead you to?

Sorry... ask again... nature maps
3 maps, 3 hiding places.
1 - the map hides keys and a map of the island... the hiding place can only be opened on the days of the solstice... what's in it? Guess for yourself, writes the owner of the letter.
2 - the map contains instructions. The main hiding place is far away (everyone's been digging in the wrong place for 200 years). What's in it? Valuables... if you dig beneath them, you'll find another hiding place + another hiding place))... documents that will answer all your questions...
3 - the map is a list of heirs with names, addresses, and a hiding place with the remaining gold, BUT the keys to the hiding place must be kept and passed down from generation to generation by the heirs. Conclusion... no one will receive anything... it will be immediately classified... it contains historical valuables, the keys themselves - notes and parchment, as well as a map of the island... all of this will be quickly confiscated.

 

[chalkoutline]

1 - the map hides keys and a map of the island... the hiding place can only be opened on the days of the solstice... what's in it? Guess for yourself, writes the owner of the letter.

I am still trying to understand. Can we focus on just the post above...
The Beale pamphlet from 1885 identifies three ciphers describing the treasure location, the treasure description and a list of rightful heirs to the treasure.
After 10 years, Robert Morriss was supposed to receive 3 KEYS from St Louis to decode the 3 ciphers he had in his possession but KEYs never arrived.

Your post mentions "maps" and no mention of ciphers or cipher numbers so I am having trouble making a connection with what I know and what you are describing in your post.

If you are using a translator you should always take the translation and convert it back to your native language. If you find mistakes, then the translation has mistakes that must be corrected for the post to be understood.

 

[Panda]

I am still trying to understand. Can we focus on just the post above...
The Beale pamphlet from 1885 identifies three ciphers describing the treasure location, the treasure description and a list of rightful heirs to the treasure.
After 10 years, Robert Morriss was supposed to receive 3 KEYS from St Louis to decode the 3 ciphers he had in his possession but KEYs never arrived.

Your post mentions "maps" and no mention of ciphers or cipher numbers so I am having trouble making a connection with what I know and what you are describing in your post.

If you are using a translator you should always take the translation and convert it back to your native language. If you find mistakes, then the translation has mistakes that must be corrected for the post to be understood.

Should they have come at all?

 

[Panda]

Some of your reply is hard to read and understand but I think your saying there are two stashes:
1. The primary containg gold and documents
2. The remaining gold for the heirs.

So which stash does Cipher 1 lead you to?

The first layer is a military report.
The matter of relationships sparks a dispute. This is followed by arrival in the city, a decision, a reward, an accusation, and counsel. A conflict or insult arises, leading to negotiations, after which the matter is referred to the government. Next comes a dependency or obligation linked to the squad.
The second layer is simple: it was a shadow network smuggling out gold and weapons. The first layer was the military report—the "fate of the military"—which is why one had to wait ten years for the right to receive land. Bill could have done it himself, but the timing wasn't right; a hunt had begun for the people who knew the truth.
Each number represents a word—it’s not a book cipher.
The gold in Virginia is for the heirs—"the remaining gold."

 

[TruthbeTold]

All of the Beale code solver’s stories have more holes in them than oak island.

 

[Panda]

At that time, it was impossible to tell the truth, and people believed what they were told.