CIPHER #3 CHALLENGE, THE FIRST 5 NAMES ON THE LIST. WHO WILL WIN ?

[legrand]

ECS wrote:

"As Rebel-KGC has mentioned many times, only recovery of the Beale treasure will prove the story and ciphers as REAL, until that time, the Beale Papers remain as a dime adventure/treasure novel, marketed and sold only in Lynchburg, Virginia."

Everyone: Yes, objective proof is necessary for most all investigators; however, some do still observe the potential in the Beale even without objective proof...I am one of those people. We all have such a wonderful experience ahead of us. Know that there is a solution and one day soon, hopefully, someone can reveal the answer...there's been enough intimation to the solution and we must wait as good things come to those who wait. All those who have been frustrated with the Beale will find a sense of relief when the answer comes forth. Project Red Knee is a part of this answer. I liked what old Doc Holiday said, "I am your huckleberry". We all must wait...the George C. Marshall Foundation in Lexington waits for an announcement...so we all must wait. So, yes, Rebel...objective proof is necessary, at least for all the "regulars" here on this thread.

 

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[legrand]

Yes, Jean Laf, time will ​tell...Bro!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Yes, Jean Laf, time will ​tell...Bro!

YEP! TIME-TRAVELERS-R-US. Now we need SUPER-Computers from 2035...

 

[Cryptography]

YEP! TIME-TRAVELERS-R-US. Now we need SUPER-Computers from 2035...

The NSA has some Supper Computers for the last 30 years. They are still in the dark on The Beale Papers!

 

[Cryptography]

Reality in this case is the perception of the reader, Bigscoop.
We make real what we want to make real-The 1885 Beale Papers claim the treasure is real, and many want to believe, without looking beyond the job pamphlet to research if it is real.

No Wining!

 

[bigscoop]

Reality in this case is the perception of the reader, Bigscoop.
We make real what we want to make real-The 1885 Beale Papers claim the treasure is real, and many want to believe, without looking beyond the job pamphlet to research if it is real.

There is a very thin line sometimes between fitting detail into a theory VS detail that fits into a theory. The first requires some tweaking, the second doesn't. But in the end they are still just theories, one being obviously stronger then the other.

 

[Eldo]

css is awesome but you should know that even if you have a few examples to enter into the computer in code you have to have some controls to experiment with to find the sequences and patterns which is wwhy we are being so challenged to expose these 5 first names. im sure this is obvious to most here that its not really very challenging. at least for the nsa or the css.

 

[ECS]

There is a very thin line sometimes between fitting detail into a theory VS detail that fits into a theory. The first requires some tweaking, the second doesn't. But in the end they are still just theories, one being obviously stronger then the other.

...and many times the names expected will be tweeked until achieved.

 

[Eldo]

still holding firm that the entire paper is a cover story for their operation of illegally mining the bullion for their first banking monopoly in nyc. legrand is making progress on a tangent in philly. there are facts showing the maps from the peralta stones show the exact times listed there in the beale and the 30 men who were killed were found in the desert at massacre grounds. this shows there was a major operation that was used to create the global wars they were plotting as vengeance for their loss in the civil war. they created the illusions surrounding both mysteries from a castle in new orleans with albert pike and other individuals like rockefeller and morgan running the manhattan project that even led to the overthrow of the russian tzar for their establishment of a socialist front of american globalization. this was found to be connected to over 100 businesses like standard oil and others in pennsylvania.

apparently the standard oil trust was running out of oil and they went looking for another source. they found the mines in az and exploited the opportunity by hording the entire valley in the arizona land grab. their enterprise was networked and coordinated from numerous points and was filling banks in a few major locations like san fran, st louis, new orleans, and in philly and nyc. they even tried to create a new policy surrounding their plans to be able to escape and replan their affairs after the civil war through changing the method of encoding their plans. jesse james was selected to operate their underground stores ans derived his own version after they were caught in the land grab.

the kgc were extremely secretive amd also had some definite plans for the us and we still live in the repercussions of these protocols they wrote.

 

[Cryptography]

I think Jean is winning

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I think Jean is winning

How so...?

 

[ECS]

I think Jean is winning

Pedro sez:
Laf is always a wiener at South of the Border.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Cryptography, I can give you the names of all thirty men and I have on this forum about two years ago. Should you want to go back and look it up. Winning is not everything because sometimes you can not win when the deck is stacked in the other cardholders hand.

Here are the first twelve names in code paper number 3 and it says these twelve are from Goose Creek Valley where the treasure was said to be buried.

1. Richard S. Merritt Lived between Murrell's Gap and Shady Grove Church
2. Ted Hatcher Lived across Goose Creek from Colonel Joseph Higgenbotham and half way up Taylor's Mountain
3. Arthur McIntosh Lived on the Fincastle Buchannon Turnpike
4. Elijah Ferrell Lived near Colonel Joseph Higgenbotham up North Goose Creek
5. James Robinson Could be Dr. James Robinson
6. Walter Otey Son of John Otey of Bedford City
7. Charles Salmond Lived on top of Taylor's Mountain north of Buford' Tavern
8. James Stephens Lived up North Goose Creek near the Smyrna Church near the Dooley's
9. Walter B. Williamson Lived on Porter's Mountain behind Buford's Tavern
10. Randolph Price Freed slave of Robert Price I have Robert's Will
11. Joseph (Vassel) Miller Lived on Porter's Mountain First man to cross the Great Divide
12. James Franklin Owned the grist mill on Goose Creek that James B. Ward purchased

Now if you want the other 18 names they are on this forum.

That is nice, but I know for a fact that there are not 30 names on C3. And you can take that to the bank!

 

[bigscoop]

That is nice, but I know for a fact that there are not 30 names on C3. And you can take that to the bank!

I would tend to agree that it's unlikely that C3, if the real deal, actually contains 30 individual names and residences.

 

[bigscoop]

The elements within the C3 cipher, which have been disclosed many times in these threads, make it possible that any number of solutions can be manufactured for that cipher. No big surprise that people have created solutions and no doubt new solutions will arrive in the future for all of these same reasons. But are any of them the correct solutions? Not very likely without the defining key, to which the author of those codes was obviously well aware of these various elements when he penned those codes. Without the defining key all of these manufactured solutions mean very-very little.

 

[Eldo]

I refuse to even try to open a file on my computer on the codes.

WHAT A TRIVIAL PURSUIT I SAY >>>>!!!!

Besides why leave it to an argument, when you can see their Persher/Perser methods are clearly shown to produce a key after the 500th letter....whereas the removal of the 'ABCDEFGHII' Code found by the NSA scientists shows there is reinforcement in the hidden key description that speaks of then relabeling of the numbers beginning at word 511, after taking the 500-510th words out, and then ity produces a different result for 1 and 3.

The codes are a snap........AIN'T GOT TIME FOR THAT !!!

There are bigger elements to be derived to show the final areas in their amazing likeness to drawn maps, set into a mystery that were protected and carved as "Speaking Stones"

Nobody here can state the location of the mines or grasp the ultimate reality of the operation, nor finalize in locating something relevant other than history.

So why ask for a few names? There are more than just names in the Beale. Don't deny that.....even more on the ground than mere mortals could see at the time etched by masters and terra formed like the ancients.....a strange occult ritual carved around the burning crosses of the Knights Templars and the remnants of old Jesuit Sevillian Inquisitors made into their

......what does that give a person for credit in this affair of the best chance of recovery of the actual troves, if all that is held is a finished codebreak?

A good hobby maybe, but there is more at stake and guys like LC BAKER also know the roots of this game by hand, so its no surprise that there is no feedback that creates a positive foundation for research in these affairs and hidden relics of history.

But this is not just history, this Operation is still continuing today. That is my ultimate frustratiion with the posts here, that the implications proposed are far greater than that of a few men on a hunting trip, or some hotel owner back in the day.

We have seen the implications of these reports and books, even recently leading to reinforcement of the removal of the Confederate Flag from areas surrounding this operation's stomping ground
So I am impressed that we have made so much go down

Franklin I respect for showing his code and even being somewhat interested in what I have presented.

Jean I respect for making the "Simpson Papers" and it seems that there have been some large efforts to find press and media connects that nobody has talked to yet,

Finder's Keepers I respect.....for the fact they share information for the needs of the common discovery and feel they have new insights to share.

Is this the place to make these things happen? Probably not for me......I will share the results though, and have already. Today I got a friendly email from my publisher of choice, and they want to do an author interview about the first book.

So I am fine with your denials.....you dont have to read it when its made............but I will hold my confirmation as my own work in the face of resistance from numerous points.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I refuse to even try to open a file on my computer on the codes.

WHAT A TRIVIAL PURSUIT I SAY >>>>!!!!

Besides why leave it to an argument, when you can see their Persher/Perser methods are clearly shown to produce a key after the 500th letter....whereas the removal of the 'ABCDEFGHII' Code found by the NSA scientists shows there is reinforcement in the hidden key description that speaks of then relabeling of the numbers beginning at word 511, after taking the 500-510th words out, and then ity produces a different result for 1 and 3.

The codes are a snap........AIN'T GOT TIME FOR THAT !!!

There are bigger elements to be derived to show the final areas in their amazing likeness to drawn maps, set into a mystery that were protected and carved as "Speaking Stones"

Nobody here can state the location of the mines or grasp the ultimate reality of the operation, nor finalize in locating something relevant other than history.

So why ask for a few names? There are more than just names in the Beale. Don't deny that.....even more on the ground than mere mortals could see at the time etched by masters and terra formed like the ancients.....a strange occult ritual carved around the burning crosses of the Knights Templars and the remnants of old Jesuit Sevillian Inquisitors made into their

......what does that give a person for credit in this affair of the best chance of recovery of the actual troves, if all that is held is a finished codebreak?

A good hobby maybe, but there is more at stake and guys like LC BAKER also know the roots of this game by hand, so its no surprise that there is no feedback that creates a positive foundation for research in these affairs and hidden relics of history.

But this is not just history, this Operation is still continuing today. That is my ultimate frustratiion with the posts here, that the implications proposed are far greater than that of a few men on a hunting trip, or some hotel owner back in the day.

We have seen the implications of these reports and books, even recently leading to reinforcement of the removal of the Confederate Flag from areas surrounding this operation's stomping ground
So I am impressed that we have made so much go down

Franklin I respect for showing his code and even being somewhat interested in what I have presented.

Jean I respect for making the "Simpson Papers" and it seems that there have been some large efforts to find press and media connects that nobody has talked to yet,

Finder's Keepers I respect.....for the fact they share information for the needs of the common discovery and feel they have new insights to share.

Is this the place to make these things happen? Probably not for me......I will share the results though, and have already. Today I got a friendly email from my publisher of choice, and they want to do an author interview about the first book.

So I am fine with your denials.....you dont have to read it when its made............but I will hold my confirmation as my own work in the face of resistance from numerous points.

WHAT is IN yer coffee...?

 

[ECS]

WHAT is IN yer coffee...?

I don't believe it is chicory.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I don't believe it is chicory.

LOL!

 

[TN_Guest1523]

ECS or Reb have not put in there name's yet. Oh but they don't believe in the Beale Papers. lol