Civil War Calvary lances

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Found these a couple of weekends ago in a well known (ie hammered) Calvary camp. They were together under a 3 ft by 1 ft piece of sandstone and were deep. I was not using my detector and really didnt know what to dig or not dig with my friends Tejon so I just dug everything. I ended up with these and a 5 gallon bucket of horseshoes! I did dig a eagle cuff while digging a small piece of iron trash as well.

Have fun!!
Alan
 

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THATS RIGHT MUDDYHANDZ , I THINK OBER SHOULD OF POSTED " UNION SOLDIERS STASHED WEAPONS AT LOCAL TOT LOT >:( OBOMA LAUNCHES MULTI MILLION DOLLAR INVESTIGATION ! " :tongue3: might make the banner then :icon_thumleft:
Muddyhandz said:
Hardy said:
OF ALL THINGS ON T.NET , I CANT UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE NOT CONSIDERED BANNER FINDS :dontknow:

Because he didn't put tot lot in the title! ::)

Those lances are fantastic! I would have been yelling if I dug those up. YAHOOOO!
WTG! Oberkill.
 
Absolute banner!!!
 
Very nice find!
 
savant365 said:
I never knew they even used lances in the civil war. Outstanding finds :thumbsup: Those will make great display pieces when you finish restoring them. Congratulations and thanks for sharing them with us.

HH Charlie


http://www.civilwarhome.com/weapons.htm

The lance, another serious weapon in the hands of a trained trooper, also appeared in the war. The 6th Pa. Cav., "Rush's Lancers," was armed with this weapon, in addition to its pistols and a few carbines, until May '63. The weapons shortage in the South led its leaders to give serious consideration to arming troops with lances and pikes. In early 1862 a set of resolutions provided for 20 regiments of Southern pikemen, and on 10 Apr. '62 an act was passed that two companies in each regiment be armed with pikes. "Strangely enough, such foolishness met with the complete approval of the military leaders, and even Gen. Lee on April 9, 1862, wrote Col. Gorgas (Chief of Confederate Ordnance), 'One thousand pikes should be sent to Gen. Jackson if practicable". Georgia's gov. spurred the Production of weapons that are now known as "JOE BROWN'S PIKES."

The antiques roadshow featured a pike (lance) some time back

Here is the transcript:

GUEST: I got it about 30 years ago. A fellow had it in his attic and I almost tripped over it and worked out a deal with him and bought it. Brought it home and about the only thing I know, it's a Joe Brown or Georgia Pike. And that's about all I can tell you.

APPRAISER: Well, you know that it's called a Joe Brown Pike or a Georgia Pike and I think what's fascinating about it is the story behind how it gets the name. Joe Brown is the governor of Georgia during the American Civil War, and early on, in February of 1862, he publishes this huge broadside that says, "To the mechanics of Georgia..." And basically what he's asking for is these pikes, just like the one we're looking at here today. In the letter he says, "I need to arm every able-bodied person in the state of Georgia," because he is afraid there is going to be an imminent coming of the Union troops into the state. It seems like kind of an archaic weapon for a soldier like that, but in his broadside he explains that when the enemy run out of bullets or when they can't fire anymore, their muskets are empty, then you could advance on them with the pike and their bayonets would be useless because of this length that you have. The other thing is, is that he intended to arm children, women, men-- anybody that he could-- with... The whole idea was, if the Union soldiers were roaming throughout Georgia, well, a young child could even sneak out from behind a bush and stab a Yankee soldier with a pike. It's really... it's kind of an odd thing, because by this time, soldiers and armies are armed with really advanced weapons. We have the repeating rifle, the revolver; there's cannons and artillery piece and here in the South, in the state of Georgia, they're building pikes. Interestingly enough, the state of Georgia had more pikes manufactured than all the other Confederate states combined. At the very end of the Civil War, a Union soldier who had been a part of capturing a fort on the coast of South Carolina wrote home and said, "It's a very sad thing to see that the Confederate Army has armed themselves with such ancient weapons." And he actually thought it was a medieval weapon, and this is what they had to use to protect themselves.

GUEST: Do you have any idea who made this one?

APPRAISER: I don't, it is an unmarked specimen. The ones made by Griswold are marked, the Stevens County ones are marked, but this one's not. It's just by a pattern from the governor. You know, by a local blacksmith or mechanic. You said you bought it out of an attic. Any idea what you paid for it at the time?

GUEST: Around $100 or $125.

APPRAISER: Well, the haft is in perfect condition. The pike itself, the metal parts are all really wonderful, a beautiful patina, and on today's market, they trade around $1,500.

GUEST: Oh, great. That really surprises me.

APPRAISER: And the truth is, under the circumstances that he's mentioning, it is a viable weapon.

GUEST: I wouldn't want to fight with it. ( laughing )
 
Civil War Calvary Lances....Hmmm hell yes Banner :headbang:

SS
 
Old iron just gets no R.E.S.P.E.C.T Not even CW iron :dontknow:

what else can I say?

Can we see a pic of the horseshoes? ;D
 
Being a connoisseur of fine rusty iron objects....I have only one word for these......Banner!........ok.... two words........Congratulations
 
I like IRON on my Banner!
 
rust gets no respect * ---gold -- silver heck even old copper coin yes --jewelry gold ,silver ect yes --iron nope not even valuible iron objects -- unless their swords or guns get their properly due respect
 
sweet finds Oberkill. :thumbsup:
we need to get another hunt in before winter had a blast last time you were down my way.
 
If I am not mistaken, I think those were in use at the beginning of the war and then not used much....fantastic find.
 
This is a very special find. Congratulations! :)
 
oh brother you are killing me,,,,,great finds,,,,,way to go,,,,,looking at those just got me motivated to do some digging today,,,again,,,,,great digs,,,banner vote
 
WE WANT A RUSTY BANNER :icon_thumleft: A PIECE OF RUST IS THE FUNDAMENTLE BASE OF A RELIC HUNTERS

SEARCH FOR HISTORY :read2:
 
Banner my friend! Way to go!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:
 
Super great finds! I would have been yelling all the way home! I vote banner as well!
WTG
Baggins
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. I have been out detecting the last 4 days so I was not able to comment on this thread. Sorry no tot lot finds. ;) lol Ill post some pics of the rest of the iron pile later tonight. I keep all the old iron for some reason. I have a white 5 gallon bucket half full of horseshoes from campsites in my garage. Not sure why.....

Alan
 
Fantastic finds. Congrats! :thumbsup:
Banner.
 
Great finds! This is what i like about t-net. learning about our great country and its history. Congrats on a banner find!! :icon_thumleft:
 

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