Continuing Idaho Digger's thought, if you are going to invest in another coil for the 4000 regardless, the sniper type coils are probably your best bet. Specifically, I would look at the NEL Sharpshooter or the slightly smaller NEL Snake DD elliptical coils. Though the Snake is smaller, it has the advantage that it is a closed coil design vs. spider design so it is less likely to get hung up in branches and brambles when searching in tight areas. The Sharpshooter, though elliptical, is similar in size to the 8" concentric, so if you really want to see a marked difference in performance (i.e., target separation) vs. the 8" stock, I would seriously consider the NEL Snake. Teknetics/First Texas only make a small round 5" DD coil for the Delta, and it is significantly more expensive than the NEL coils. Hope this helps.