Complete PDF of Beale Papers Online anywhere?

[tad10]

Hi,

I'm looking for a complete pdf of The Beale Papers (with a reasonable resolution). The best I found is one on tripod but it is missing the last page (page 23) and the resolution wasn't the best.

I've tried Archive.org and google books to know avail, I searched this forum as well but didn't find anything (though I certainly could have missed a previous thread). So does anyone know where I can find a complete pdf of Ward's pamphlet?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Trev

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

NOTHING "on-line" of the ORIGINAL... only Peter Viemeister has a copy of the ORIGNAL Beale PAPERS Pamphlet (1885) in his book, THE BEALE TREASURE: NEW History of a MYSTERY. It is what the ppl read in 1885 +. PV's book; Chapter 3, THE BEALE PAPERS, pg 22-44. ORIGINAL was/is 23 pages, long. "Thus ends the pamphlet, copyright 1885 by J.B. Ward".

 

[franklin]

There are several that have copies of the original 23 pages. I can not paste and copy but you can google 'origninal Beale Papers" or "Job Print Pamphlet" and you should come up with an original. I believe there is a copy on Ron Gervasis webpage.

 

[tad10]

There are several that have copies of the original 23 pages. I can not paste and copy but you can google 'origninal Beale Papers" or "Job Print Pamphlet" and you should come up with an original. I believe there is a copy on Ron Gervasis webpage.

There is no copy on the Gervasis website nor has using google or bing resulted in a complete copy (thus my post) - the best copies online are missing the last page. The only actual complete copy appears to be in the PV book suggested above, I will see about getting a used copy if one can be found for a reasonable price.

Since I believe in paying it forward, to thank KGC, I'll note something that I haven't seen mentioned on this site: the Morris/Ward personas in the Beale manuscript are based on an actual person: George Washington Parke Custis who built Arlington House (which was originally going to be called Washington House). Mr Custis was the "grand"-stepson of President Washington and was also President Washington's adopted ward after the death of his father and was certainly friends with all the people "Morriss" was allegedly friendly with in the Papers. The Robert in "Robert Morriss" was a reference to Robert E. Lee who was Custis' son-in-law. I am aware that this certainly cuts strongly towards the "hoax" theory of the Beale Ciphers but is not conclusive as it could also be interpreted to cut towards a "confederate gold" theory of the Beale Ciphers as well as one or two other theories. And in any event, even if a hoax, it remains an interesting puzzle.

Cheers,

Trev

 

[Rebel - KGC]

INDEED!

 

[franklin]

There is no copy on the Gervasis website nor has using google or bing resulted in a complete copy (thus my post) - the best copies online are missing the last page. The only actual complete copy appears to be in the PV book suggested above, I will see about getting a used copy if one can be found for a reasonable price.

Since I believe in paying it forward, to thank KGC, I'll note something that I haven't seen mentioned on this site: the Morris/Ward personas in the Beale manuscript are based on an actual person: George Washington Parke Custis who built Arlington House (which was originally going to be called Washington House). Mr Custis was the "grand"-stepson of President Washington and was also President Washington's adopted ward after the death of his father and was certainly friends with all the people "Morriss" was allegedly friendly with in the Papers. The Robert in "Robert Morriss" was a reference to Robert E. Lee who was Custis' son-in-law. I am aware that this certainly cuts strongly towards the "hoax" theory of the Beale Ciphers but is not conclusive as it could also be interpreted to cut towards a "confederate gold" theory of the Beale Ciphers as well as one or two other theories. And in any event, even if a hoax, it remains an interesting puzzle.

Cheers,

Trev

Which Arlington House are you referring to? Not the one in Lynchburg, Va. The one in Lynchburg had nothing to do with the names you mentioned. That would be the Arlington House that was later given to Robert E. Lee's wife and is now the Arlington National Cemetery.


Also there is nothing on Page 23 except where the author handed the manuscript over to James Beverly Ward. The author kept the ironbox that contained the letters of TJB and the cipher papers.

 

[tad10]

Also there is nothing on Page 23

This is an open question that I am looking at right now, thus my need for an original page 23.

 

[franklin]

This is an open question that I am looking at right now, thus my need for an original page 23.

You can find a copy of Peter Viemeister's Book at any local library. Make a photo copy and enjoy.

What about the Arlington House what is your source? Which Arlington House were you posting about?

 

[tad10]

You can find a copy of Peter Viemeister's Book at any local library. Make a photo copy and enjoy.

What about the Arlington House what is your source? Which Arlington House were you posting about?

Perhaps any local library in Virginia, or where you live, unfortunately not out here but thanks for the suggestion.

Since I haven't posted on this site before this thread, let me note two things: I'm not interested in commenting upon, or defending any research I might post and any research I post (such as the Custis comments above) which I post without citing someone is my own. I will comment this one time if the reasons for point one are not obvious (though I'm sure they are to most people): I can make a reasonable case for my Custis statement based on his history, but since the history of hotel keeping in Lynchburg in 1820 is pretty thin anyone convinced of the "reality" of the Beale Papers can argue that there was an actual Morriss but time and the Civil War erased the paper trail and that the case for Custis is coincidental.

And that's completely fine with me. Take it or leave it as you like.

Cheers,
Trev

 

[franklin]

Perhaps any local library in Virginia, or where you live, unfortunately not out here but thanks for the suggestion.

Since I haven't posted on this site before this thread, let me note two things: I'm not interested in commenting upon, or defending any research I might post and any research I post (such as the Custis comments above) which I post without citing someone is my own. I will comment this one time if the reasons for point one are not obvious (though I'm sure they are to most people): I can make a reasonable case for my Custis statement based on his history, but since the history of hotel keeping in Lynchburg in 1820 is pretty thin anyone convinced of the "reality" of the Beale Papers can argue that there was an actual Morriss but time and the Civil War erased the paper trail and that the case for Custis is coincidental.

And that's completely fine with me. Take it or leave it as you like.

Cheers,
Trev

For what it's worth, I will leave it.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Hi,

I'm looking for a complete pdf of The Beale Papers (with a reasonable resolution). The best I found is one on tripod but it is missing the last page (page 23) and the resolution wasn't the best.

I've tried Archive.org and google books to know avail, I searched this forum as well but didn't find anything (though I certainly could have missed a previous thread). So does anyone know where I can find a complete pdf of Ward's pamphlet?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Trev

I am almost done putting them all to video

 

[jeff of pa]

Bye franklin Please move on !
Nothing in this Thread for you Anymore !

another post like I just deleted & I'll go Farther !

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Bye franklin Please move on !
Nothing in this Thread for you Anymore !

another post like I just deleted & I'll go Farther !

x 2

 

[franklin]

x 2

What was x1 for? Treasure_Hunter, If I said anything different than what is being said to me please let me know. The other party is as guilty as myself. You never tell any poster the reason you just cut them off without warning. I know from experience that to be true. But, please look at what the other poster is saying. I have more likes than I do post while they only have one like for each 10 post that should tell you something.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

What was x1 for? Treasure_Hunter, If I said anything different than what is being said to me please let me know. The other party is as guilty as myself. You never tell any poster the reason you just cut them off without warning. I know from experience that to be true. But, please look at what the other poster is saying. I have more likes than I do post while they only have one like for each 10 post that should tell you something.

X2 means I agree with Jeff's warning,! You know exactly what you did, if it repeats you will find you can't log in.

 

[jeff of pa]

What was x1 for? Treasure_Hunter, If I said anything different than what is being said to me please let me know. The other party is as guilty as myself. You never tell any poster the reason you just cut them off without warning. I know from experience that to be true. But, please look at what the other poster is saying. I have more likes than I do post while they only have one like for each 10 post that should tell you something.

Franklin Your Post had Foul Language & an attack.
It is still here, Just Invisible to all but Mods & admin.
(leaving a letter out of the word, Doesn't make the word less foul)
If I am missing Foul Language & an attack Aimed at you,
Please Point it out to Me, & I will treat them Equally.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Franklin Your Post had Foul Language & an attack.
It is still here, Just Invisible to all but Mods & admin.
(leaving a letter out of the word, Doesn't make the word less foul)
If I am missing Foul Language & an attack Aimed at you,
Please Point it out to Me, & I will treat them Equally.

CAPTAIN THOMAS BEALE SR'S SON-IN-LAW SAMUEL RICKER JR and
CAPTAIN THOMAS BEALE'S PROBATE 1829 WITH NO PROOF OF DEATH, thread not working .

Did we have a server problem or are we being reprimanded ?

 

[jeff of pa]

CAPTAIN THOMAS BEALE SR'S SON-IN-LAW SAMUEL RICKER JR and
CAPTAIN THOMAS BEALE'S PROBATE 1829 WITH NO PROOF OF DEATH, thread not working .

Did we have a server problem or are we being reprimanded ?

it is the Apostrophe in the Title Glitch.
I cannot open threads with a Apostrophe in the title Either Sorry !

 

[TN_Guest1523]

it is the Apostrophe in the Title Glitch.
I cannot open threads with a Apostrophe in the title Either Sorry !

Sounds like a plugin problem, should I wait or make a new thread for the topic without an Apostrophe ?

 

[jeff of pa]

Sounds like a plugin problem, should I wait or make a new thread for the topic without an Apostrophe ?

Your Welcome to start a New thread if you wish.

Administration is most likely on Vacation I haven't heard a word on this