✅ SOLVED Copper ID help

[HeatherM]

Can anyone help identify this? Assuming it is a big copper coin. It measures 1" across. I can see an oval/circle on one side and maybe a shield on the other? Maybe a "US". I am going cross-eyed trying to see any other details to be able to google anything. Found in the yard of a 1950s house but civil war fort a few miles down the road and the land owner said the big "ditch" in the front yard was part of the "old road". Found 70 plus coins 1960s and newer because they did easter egg hunts there since the 1950s and even found some plastic eggs with coins still inside but no silver! So this is the only "old" thing I found.

 

[pepperj]

What you have is a Half Penny Bank Token
This one is a penny-similar images on both.
Now to narrow it down.
Possible 1837, to start off 🤔

 

[HeatherM]

PepperJ, thank you! That definitely is the top side! Now to figure out which back side... Thank you!

 

[pepperj]

PepperJ, thank you! That definitely is the top side! Now to figure out which back side... Thank you!

Your welcome.
Either soak it for a bit in hydrogen peroxide, or us a tooth pick to take off some of the crud.
I won't need a whole lot more to give you the ID.

 

[HeatherM]

Your welcome.
Either soak it for a bit in hydrogen peroxide, or us a tooth pick to take off some of the crud.
I won't need a whole lot more to give you the ID.

I will work on it more tomorrow. thank you!

 

[invent4hir]

Tokens are so interesting. Looking forward to the cleaning and pepperj's answer.

 

[unclemac]

hell, I collect those things and I am not even sure I could have made that ID ! good job

 

[HeatherM]

Still not able to tell much on the back although I'm guessing it is the bank building going by a few lines but I did get the date on the front by soaking it a bit in hydrogen peroxide per advice from PepperJ and toothpicked a bit as well. 1844!

 

[invent4hir]

HeatherM, looks like your persistence and patience were rewarded by recovering the year - WTG!

 

[pepperj]

Still not able to tell much on the back although I'm guessing it is the bank building going by a few lines but I did get the date on the front by soaking it a bit in hydrogen peroxide per advice from PepperJ and toothpicked a bit as well. 1844!

1/2 penny 1844 | Banks tokens | Quebec, Montreal, Upper Canada, City Bank | Coins and Canada

Descriptions, pictures and values of 1/2 penny 1844 bank tokens of Canada.

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[HeatherM]

1/2 penny 1844 | Banks tokens | Quebec, Montreal, Upper Canada, City Bank | Coins and Canada

Descriptions, pictures and values of 1/2 penny 1844 bank tokens of Canada.

www.coinsandcanada.com

HeatherM, looks like your persistence and patience were rewarded by recovering the year - WTG!

First time using hydrogen peroxide and it worked just enough to be able to scrape off a bit to get the date once I knew where to look going by PepperJ's photo!

 

[HeatherM]

1/2 penny 1844 | Banks tokens | Quebec, Montreal, Upper Canada, City Bank | Coins and Canada

Descriptions, pictures and values of 1/2 penny 1844 bank tokens of Canada.

www.coinsandcanada.com

So interesting! Have never heard of these so a fun find. Thank you for the help!

 

[pepperj]

You can probably mark it solved now.
Here's a bit of the token history:

The 1844 Bank of Montreal (BOM) token was mostly a
true mintage date, but with one significant exception: the halfpenny tokens issued in 1845 were entirely dated 1844.

• The Bank of Montreal was granted permission in 1842 to import £5,000 worth of copper tokens, provided the full amount was imported before 1845.
• The bank made several shipments and issues:
  • Issues in 1842 (pennies and halfpennies) bore the 1842 date.
  • Issues in 1844 (halfpennies) bore the 1844 date.
  • • A final £1,000 of halfpennies were issued in 1845, but these were also dated 1844, likely to meet the import deadline or use up existing dies.
  • Dies dated 1845 were created, but only a handful of 1845-dated halfpennies are known to exist, making them extremely rare proofs.

 

[invent4hir]

What an interesting history...

 

[Almy]

Kentucky is a long way from Quebec. Unusual to find that coin there. They are nice coins and yours will look fine, I think, when you get the corrosion off.

 

[invent4hir]

Hi HeatherM, please see "How to mark your "What Is It" SOLVED -- PHOTO TUTORIAL." at https://www.treasurenet.com/threads/how-to-mark-your-what-is-it-solved-photo-tutorial.369859/

 

[HeatherM]

Kentucky is a long way from Quebec. Unusual to find that coin there. They are nice coins and yours will look fine, I think, when you get the corrosion off.

Actually found in Louisiana when I was home for Christmas so even further!

 

[HeatherM]

Hi HeatherM, please see "How to mark your "What Is It" SOLVED -- PHOTO TUTORIAL." at https://www.treasurenet.com/threads/how-to-mark-your-what-is-it-solved-photo-tutorial.369859/

Sorry, hadn't logged in in a few days. Will do now. Thank you!