Decorative Iron Bell - After Apple Cider Treatment

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Decorative Iron Bell - After Apple Cider Vinegar Treatment

Here are a couple of photos of some recent finds on an old farm site dating to the mid 1700's here in the Shenandoah Valley. Also, after the WBTS, a Confederate Veteran lived on the property. Pulled out a toe-tap, part of a lice comb (I think), and what I believe is a very toasted large cent. I found the old broken bell to be the most interesting piece - very ornate design on it. Before and after pics of a good soaking in apple cider vinegar and wire brushing of the bell. I really can't find any way to date it or learn anything about its possible origin. Any ideas would be appreciated - thanks!
 

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That bell is very cool. How long did it need to soak in cider? I'll have to try that method.
Thanks,
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I've poured Apple Cider Vinegar on some of my finds, and not a one turned into a Decorative Iron Bell.

Nice find.

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The bell cleaned up real nice! Maybe that's what the wizards were missing when trying to turn other metals to gold, apple sider vinegar! Now if only we can get it to work on all the pull tabs!
 

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I have never tried vinegar on my finds how long do you soak it? The bell looks good. Congrats. I hope you will be able to date it.
 

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That bell is very cool. How long did it need to soak in cider? I'll have to try that method.
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Thanks Doug. Because of the detailed design, it took much longer than usual - about 2 weeks, with wire brushing every few days.
 

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I have never tried vinegar on my finds how long do you soak it? The bell looks good. Congrats. I hope you will be able to date it.

Thanks. Typically 7 to 10 days. Some pieces take longer. It depends on the extent of the rust. Also, if the original surface is flat/smooth, the rust comes off much quicker.
 

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That IS a very ornate old bell Richard that I'm sure cost a pretty penny when bought back then. Treatment came out great. HH, Q.
 

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AC is a good method, and far better than electrolysis. if your not in a hurry. It can take a month or more for really heavily pitted / corroded stuff, but no electricity etc. I was quite surprised for such a weak acid at what it can do.

Very interesting bell, bells are some of my favorite finds.
 

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That IS a very ornate old bell Richard that I'm sure cost a pretty penny when bought back then. Treatment came out great. HH, Q.

Thanks Q! I'll try to remember to get that picture to you this evening.
 

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AC is a good method, and far better than electrolysis. if your not in a hurry. It can take a month or more for really heavily pitted / corroded stuff, but no electricity etc. I was quite surprised for such a weak acid at what it can do.

Very interesting bell, bells are some of my favorite finds.

Thanks Rick. I've used both and prefer ACV. Electrolysis would still be the way to go with very large items, but the ACV works just as well, if not better, on most of the stuff I find.
 

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The soak can get very nasty, make sure you wear some rubber gloves when handling the items.
 

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The soak can get very nasty, make sure you wear some rubber gloves when handling the items.

Absolutely. Also advisable: Warn the wife or keep it in your man cave. :laughing7:
 

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The comb is not a lice comb. The gaps in between the teeth are to big.

Maybe for a horse mane if not for a person.
 

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The comb is not a lice comb. The gaps in between the teeth are to big.

Maybe for a horse mane if not for a person.

Thanks Cactus.
 

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citric acid would probably be easier/cheaper...try a brewers supply...oxalic acid too....
 

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citric acid would probably be easier/cheaper...try a brewers supply...oxalic acid too....

Thanks for the suggestion. How does it differ from lemon juice - stronger?
 

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The bell turned out quite well there Stonewall, I have a large tub of ACV and when I find iron goodies I just toss them in, check on them every now and then, maybe brush them and knock off the chunks of rust and it wont hurt the metal, no matter how long you leave it in there. Also leaves any chrome finish intact.
Do you think that your bell would have been a cow bell or animal bell?
ZDD
 

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The bell turned out quite well there Stonewall, I have a large tub of ACV and when I find iron goodies I just toss them in, check on them every now and then, maybe brush them and knock off the chunks of rust and it wont hurt the metal, no matter how long you leave it in there. Also leaves any chrome finish intact.
Do you think that your bell would have been a cow bell or animal bell?
ZDD

The large tub is a good idea. No, I think it's too heavy for a cow bell and too decorative as well. I suppose it's possible, but I doubt it. More like something you might see at an entrance door to ring. No maker's mark anywhere.
 

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