DHS Preparing For A Total Police State Takeover

Why Is Homeland Security Stockpiling Guns And Ammunition? | Albany Tribune News

In addition to the stockpiling/purchase of ammo, check out THIS little tidbit in the article:

"Homeland Security has reportedly acquired an undetermined number of Mine Resistant Armored Protection (MRAP) vehicles, recently decommissioned from the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, where they have been retrofitted for possible use on the streets of America.

“Regardless of the exact number of MRAP’s being delivered to DHS (and evidently some to Police via DHS, as has been observed), why would they need such over-the-top vehicles on US streets to withstand IEDs, mine blasts, and 50-caliber hits to bullet-proof glass,” asked ‘paramilblogger’ Ken Jorgustin in September.

Meanwhile, Forbes magazine, in an article asking for a “national conversation” on the matter, asked “why would DHS need such a vehicle on our streets?”
 

How do you know they dont practice with 185 grain FMJ then carry 185 grain hollowpoints.You can practice and carry any thing you want to as long as the bullet weight and powder charge remain the same then your sights remain true.As soon as you start changing bullet weights and or powder charges your hits will be off.


They could, but why would they? To save money? Are we talking about the same government that I'm living under? Do you think "saving money" is even in the top ten considerations? And frankly I'm more than happy to pay a little extra for ammo so law enforcement can practice with exactly what they carry. Plus that will leave the cheap stuff for the weekend target shooters.
 

Some people will say there is nothing unusual going on right up until they start using them on American citizens and then still deny anything wrong is happening............



:BangHead:
 

"assault weapon" is actually a German translation of a term used to describe the MP44.

It actually refers to a weapon that hasn't been produced since 1945.

It is just "angry sounding' and is used by liberals for shock factor.

I think you mean STG44 maybe?
 

Why Is Homeland Security Stockpiling Guns And Ammunition? | Albany Tribune News

In addition to the stockpiling/purchase of ammo, check out THIS little tidbit in the article:

"Homeland Security has reportedly acquired an undetermined number of Mine Resistant Armored Protection (MRAP) vehicles, recently decommissioned from the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, where they have been retrofitted for possible use on the streets of America.

“Regardless of the exact number of MRAP’s being delivered to DHS (and evidently some to Police via DHS, as has been observed), why would they need such over-the-top vehicles on US streets to withstand IEDs, mine blasts, and 50-caliber hits to bullet-proof glass,” asked ‘paramilblogger’ Ken Jorgustin in September.

Meanwhile, Forbes magazine, in an article asking for a “national conversation” on the matter, asked “why would DHS need such a vehicle on our streets?”

I see you have an SO rate Doc.

Thank you for your service.
 

Are you referring to the MP44 submachine gun , Dano ?

lol..
I'm glad you quoted that lame attempt of his so I could see it....

Nice try Drano. Troll harder.

the Sturmgewehr 44 (as you think it was called) was renamed the "MP44" from the initial suggested 'Stg44' to further development after Hitler (an "Old School" ww1 vet) didn't like the concept of an intermediate rifle cartridge, but was ok with a "Machine Pistol" So in order to continue the project, the backers continued it and called it the "MP44" a misnomer that actually refers to a rifle not a submachine gun as the name you latched onto without verifiying the history behind the story suggests.
Anyone who actually fired military weapons for a living or went thorough and in depth familiarization firing with them would know that as opposed to a keyboard commando who regurgitated internet stuff.
Learn to google at least. Even THAT would have saved your desperate attempt.
Are you so weak to jab back at being made to look the fool that you resort to quacking out stuff you haven't even bothered to verify? lol.. :D

Weeeeeak.
 

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Interesting....but unfortunately backwards! Which doesn't surprise me lol. The MP44 became the STG44, so the MP44 couldn't become an "assault rifle" before being given the new name which coined the phrase - "sturmgewehr" "storm rifle"!

Your version is kinda like saying Columbus discovered the USA. Panjemajo comrade?
 

I think its a little naive to think that the first amendment hasn't changed. I know it hasn't "officially" been changed, you cant just go around and say or write anything you want anymore. Again I am not for a ban and I don't think the government is after your guns. I believe "the right to bear arms" needs more clarification, that's a pretty broad statement. I have to admit I am not "up to date" on all gun laws but wasn't it Ronald Reagan who banned assault weapons?

2nd amendment doesn't need any more clarification, it is perfectly clear...

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
That is pretty clear statement there............

It does not say the the right of the Militia to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, instead it says "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".......
 

2nd amendment doesn't need any more clarification, it is perfectly clear...

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
That is pretty clear statement there............

It does not say the the right of the Militia to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, instead it says "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".......

You obviously have no concept of constitutional law if you believe that "2nd amendment doesn't need any more clarification, it is perfectly clear". Everything in the constitution and bill of rights have been interpreted and reinterpreted ever since they were first written up until the present. Knowing the history of gun ownership and gun control / restriction and the case law that backs it how can you make that statement? You yourself have even used many of the more famous cases in your own discussions??
 

You obviously have no concept of constitutional law if you believe that "2nd amendment doesn't need any more clarification, it is perfectly clear". Everything in the constitution and bill of rights have been interpreted and reinterpreted ever since they were first written up until the present. Knowing the history of gun ownership and gun control / restriction and the case law that backs it how can you make that statement? You yourself have even used many of the more famous cases in your own discussions??

WELL, WB! Let the FUN, begin...
 

2nd forum was not open to debate 2nd amendment, it is one of the rights written in Bill of Rights, forum is to keep members updated on activities related to attack on 2nd by new gun control measures.

Warning to all, watch the insults, moderators are watching....
 

2nd forum was not open to debate 2nd amendment, it is one of the rights written in Bill of Rights, forum is to keep members updated on activities related to attack on 2nd by new gun control measures.

Warning to all, watch the insults, moderators are watching....

LOL! Close the "thread", then...
 

2nd forum was not open to debate 2nd amendment, it is one of the rights written in Bill of Rights, forum is to keep members updated on activities related to attack on 2nd by new gun control measures.

Warning to all, watch the insults, moderators are watching....

No one is debating the 2nd amendment. We all believe in the second amendment and the constitution. Many people also understand the constitutional law process put in place by the founding fathers and the founding documents. The government under the constitution has the constitutional right to restrict felons from owning firearms. This is a fact - completely constitutional - no debate - correct? Now some folks opinion might be this is good, some feel this is bad. We are all entitled to opinions. You can certainly believe in the second amendment but believe that felons should not have guns - correct? Some believe that other completely constitutional limitations / restrictions should be in place in firearms - others do not. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
 

2nd amendment doesn't need any more clarification, it is perfectly clear...

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
That is pretty clear statement there............

It does not say the the right of the Militia to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed, instead it says "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".......

Okay, this is where you lose me...

I get the point about disarming Americans.
I get the point about registration being the first step to disarming.
I've changed my views against further restrictions on guns and registration. I think further restrictions or registration would be futile. It may prevent a few deaths...but that is mere speculation. I would much rather both sides put this issue to rest and we move on.

However, everything is open to interpretation....everything. I'm not debating the second amendment. But how can you say the "Constitution is not open for interpretation." I think this is where you lose a lot of logical people. People do change their minds, I am an example. However, the previous statement sounds more like drawing a line and sticking one's feet in the mud then it does helping to further understanding.

Sincerely and respectfully,
Crispin

Ps. I've decided registration would do nothing anyway. I am against it. The government is too incompetent to correctly carry out the task; and hence, too incompetent for any type of take over as well.
 

DHS Preparing For A Total Police State Takeover

March 25th, 2013

(GovtSlaves) – The Department of Homeland Security, better known as the liberty destroying arm of the Government, is not fiscally responsible or Constitutionally correct.

Founded in 2002 as a response to the Governments false flag attack on 9/11, the Department of Homeland Security has quickly eroded your personal rights at an extremely alarming rate.

The TSA has single-handedly turned airports into prisons. Where else in America do you lose all of your God-given rights upon entering a building?

Not to mention the humiliating molestation you receive by lowly TSA agents who don’t understand the implications of their actions. And since we are talking about policies, let us not forget the TSA’s “no fly, no buy” list. Getting on this list should be fairly easy if you’re a liberty loving, pro gun Constitutionalist, or if your name resembles a Middle Eastern terrorist (who was probably funded by rogue elements of the United States Government.) Getting off the list is a whole different story and nearly impossible thanks to the abandonment of our judicial system.

The TSA is also making the transition from airports to Amtrak stations, sporting events and eventually to policing the streets of America. And don’t worry, if you get out of line the DHS is working on electronic shock bracelets that will keep us slaves in check.

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=urg8by4oFoY

One of the biggest stories of the year has to be the DHS purchasing billions of rounds of ammunition. Why would our beloved and trusted Government go to the extreme of drying up the nations ammunition supply? Are they preparing for a massive civil unrest? Are they purposely driving up the prices to punish economically challenged Americans? Its gotten so bad that prices are at all time highs and local law enforcement is having a hard time filling orders.

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uQoQO0rEeX0

You know truth and transparency is not the Obama Administration’s strong point, so don’t expect any legitimate answers in the near future. Luckily there are a few pulses of liberty left in congress who are challenging the administration’s stance of stonewalling the very important question, “Why are we buying all this ammunition?”

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbfjxjpKoR8&feature=player_embedded

Since the unjust war in Iraq has wound down the empire of America needs a new enemy to fight, and guess what…..IT’S YOU! If you’re a freedom loving American, a returning veteran, a Second Amendment supporter, a We Are Change member, part of Oath Keepers, or just a fan of columnist Devy Kidd you are now considered a threat to the fabric of America. Don’t believe me? Watch this disgusting interview with the Southern Poverty Law Centers Mark Potok (an organization that claims to teach tolerance while attacking certain groups and people with whom they disagree.)

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnBcNVxaNhE&feature=player_embedded

Paul Joseph Watson recently reported on a 12 million dollar DHS study that characterizes Americans who are:

“suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.

The report also identifies the following characteristics are used to identify potential threats.

Americans who believe their “way of life” is under attack

Americans who are “fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation)

People who consider themselves “anti-global” (presumably those who are wary of the loss of American sovereignty)

Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority”

Americans who are “reverent of individual liberty”

People who “believe in conspiracy theories that involve grave threat to national sovereignty and/or personal liberty.”

Our personal privacy is being invaded. Its bad enough we are recorded by security cameras, traffic cameras and red light cameras on a daily basis. Now the eyes in the sky, better known as drones, are the latest way the Department of Homeland Security wants to keep us safe. The Obama Administration has stated they have authority to use drone strikes to kill US citizens. Remember Anwar al-Awlaki? A United States asset who visited the Pentagon on occasion only to be double crossed and killed by a drone strike in Yemen. He was an American citizen.

The capability of the DHS’s drone fleet is something right out of a science fiction novel. They can detect guns, eavesdrop on phone conversations and kill you with a single shot. U.S Senators have even introduced the idea of a drone court where all drone killings will be decided on. Thankfully Senator Rand Paul took a stance against the drone language and filibustered for 13 hours.

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tuFD2RUPI&feature=player_embedded

The police state is here. The sellout Government we have elected has incrementally taken away liberty’s without most people knowing or caring. If getting molested at the airport doesn’t upset you, nothing will. If you don’t find the Governments massive ammunition buys a little intriguing or suspicious, something is wrong. If you are not instantly enraged that the Government now classifies you as a terrorist and is planning to fill the sky’s with drones to spy on you then maybe you should reevaluate what it means to be an American.

Show me the proof that they are not preparing for zombie apocalypse or extraterrestrial invasion?
 

Show me the proof that they are not preparing for zombie apocalypse or extraterrestrial invasion?

You got a pretty good point here. We know they don't share all their information with the public. Maybe they know something we don't...

Has anybody seen G.I.B. recently? We need a report on the zombie situation.
 

You got a pretty good point here. We know they don't share all their information with the public. Maybe they know something we don't...

Has anybody seen G.I.B. recently? We need a report on the zombie situation.

And the CDC did talk about zombies!! I find zombie apocalypse or alien invasion to be almost as probable as government take over / police state. Maybe slightly less likely given we are not sure f the existence if zombies and aliens. But it's real close.
 

I am wrong in thinking when the constitution was written We had a bunch of smart guys sitting around for gee I don't know how long. Going over and over the way it was written. Now I'm sure most knew law and I'm sure they wrote it so never to be interpreted. But take it like it was written. Was there two sides back then? When did the thought interpretation come into it? I see there are those people you use this excuse to change it for their individual groups benefit.

I think when things like this change there is some person walking around some country club bragging "See what I did" with one hand on a 32oz er
 

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