Early archaic? Illinois piece

[knapper1492]

This is from far NE Illinois. Heavily serrated, base is ground. What’s interesting is that it was made in a reduction flake, which is common on later cultures but the attributes here seem to imply Kirk cluster, which are very common in the area. Anyone familiar with the points in Illinois know how to type this one? It’s 1 3/4” long and 1/4” thick

 

[newnan man]

Pretty unique flaking.

 

[russau]

Nice point !

 

[Hellbilly]

I dont see a ground base. Not real familiar with points that far north, but here are a few that might fit. Hopewell, Hardin and Brewerton CN. Hope this helps.

 

[ToddsPoint]

Made on a thin spall. Very efficient way of flaking. I’m guessing a Woodland point as that’s a trait they sometimes have. Also, it has outre-passe or overshot flaking. Very impressive. Here’s a Woodland point from 150 mi south of you made similarly on a thin spall.

 

[knapper1492]

Made on a thin spall. Very efficient way of flaking. I’m guessing a Woodland point as that’s a trait they sometimes have. Also, it has outre-passe or overshot flaking. Very impressive. Here’s a Woodland point from 150 mi south of you made similarly on a thin spall.View attachment 2266043View attachment 2266044

@ToddsPoint Thanks, however one of the few things that make me think it’s archaic is the serrations and the resharpening technique. Here are better pictures. Hard to see in the images but the serrations and resharpening is closely in line with stillwell. Thoughts?

 

[ToddsPoint]

It’s a head scratcher. Overshot flaking is usually found on paleo points but also on a few woodland types. Serrations scream early archaic like Stilwell or pine tree but base, notches and use of thin biface look woodland. I don’t really recognize that material but it looks glacial. Use of glacial material usually means later times rather than older. Neat point.