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Does the title sound familiar? If you are one of the unfortunate ones to experience hamstring cramps at 1-2 in the morning this may be a sign that your lumbar is in trouble.

I began detecting in 1994 at the age of 40. 12 years later I began waking up to hamstring cramps at around 1-2 in the morning after a day of detecting. I started asking around as to what was causing it and was told Potassium deficiency or dehydration. So I was eating bananas like crazy and also drinking lots of water before going out and still got the cramps anyway. I was eventually referred to a Spine specialist who told me the reason why I was getting cramps was that I had degenerative disc disease in my lumbar and that discs normally take on fluid and swell which peaks around that time. I was told that when the discs swell and are not in proper position they will push against branch nerves causing contraction signals to the hamstrings.

Unfortunately, age is not your friend and the disc disease will only worsen with time. I went through PT and did the injections with no joy. The only thing that gave me relief to the cramp like pain when walking was surgery. So glad I did it and hoping to get back into detecting when I get the thumbs up.

I am posting this not to solicit sympathy but as a warning to others as to what the trigger for the cramps are and maybe they can catch it early enough to make a difference. Another point is that whenever you hold weight out in front of you the lower back is taking the strain. Leaning over while swinging a detector out further from your feet is definitely a load on the lumbar. Sometimes it cant be helped when in the woods and brush but should be kept to a minimum.
 
I went through PT and did the injections with no joy. The only thing that gave me relief to the cramp like pain when walking was surgery.
I'm really glad it worked out for you, but I'll pass. I've had some lumbar issues for years that I just learn to live with. Cramps sometimes that are most likely related. But the idea of having someone knock me out and take a knife to my spine sounds extremely risky. All I've ever heard about back surgeries is horror stories.
 
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I get a cramp in my hamstring when I'm in my recliner and it will take me into the floor. It's awful. Always same spot on same leg . Hasn't happened in awhile but it used to be frequent. Never had the wake up out of bed with it
 
I'm really glad it worked out for you, but I'll pass. I've had some lumber issues for years that I just learn to live with. Cramps sometimes that are most likely related. But the idea of having someone knock me out and take a knife to my spine sounds extremely risky. All I've ever heard about back surgeries is horror stories.
Had the fusion surgery (L4/L5) seven weeks ago, and I am walking 2 miles a day now on my treadmill. I am no longer in any pain or discomfort. So glad I did it. Like you I had heard horror stories and was very apprehensive.
 
I have degenerative disc disease and struggle with it constantly. Holding anything in front of me like a detector sets it off pretty quick. I can only last an hour at a time swinging and digging. A friend had three unsuccessful back surgeries, then got hooked on pain killers. He doctor shopped to get more and ended up dying from all the Tylenol mixed with pain killers. No surgery or narcotics for me. Just have to live with it for now. 🤷🏼
 
Does the title sound familiar? If you are one of the unfortunate ones to experience hamstring cramps at 1-2 in the morning this may be a sign that your lumbar is in trouble.

I began detecting in 1994 at the age of 40. 12 years later I began waking up to hamstring cramps at around 1-2 in the morning after a day of detecting. I started asking around as to what was causing it and was told Potassium deficiency or dehydration. So I was eating bananas like crazy and also drinking lots of water before going out and still got the cramps anyway. I was eventually referred to a Spine specialist who told me the reason why I was getting cramps was that I had degenerative disc disease in my lumbar and that discs normally take on fluid and swell which peaks around that time. I was told that when the discs swell and are not in proper position they will push against branch nerves causing contraction signals to the hamstrings.

Unfortunately, age is not your friend and the disc disease will only worsen with time. I went through PT and did the injections with no joy. The only thing that gave me relief to the cramp like pain when walking was surgery. So glad I did it and hoping to get back into detecting when I get the thumbs up.

I am posting this not to solicit sympathy but as a warning to others as to what the trigger for the cramps are and maybe they can catch it early enough to make a difference. Another point is that whenever you hold weight out in front of you the lower back is taking the strain. Leaning over while swinging a detector out further from your feet is definitely a load on the lumbar. Sometimes it cant be helped when in the woods and brush but should be kept to a minimum.
I had my hip joint replaced. Dr said my lower spine, lumbar was in the condition of much older gentleman and they weren't sure what to do until the hip was long done. I have had hamstring issues , sciatica symptoms a damn long list like Evil Kneivels traffic tickets.
Cutting to the chase, they gave me a pair of custom orthotics, said my feet were flat flat arch gone. That pair of custom inserts has done a ton for my morning startup issues. Try to walk in morning without I hobble. Orthotics on i am way better. Ice and heat on the back helps , digging with a round point kills me the next day but I can climb ladders , paint plaster, wrench under a car but that shovel transfers it to the back and is not good for me. Good luck , take it easy . Its hard.
 
Cramps are so frustrating, You may not believe this but drinking Dill Pickle Juice will get rid of them. And it works really fast.
 
Cramps are so frustrating, You may not believe this but drinking Dill Pickle Juice will get rid of them. And it works really fast.
If the cramps are a result of a chemical imbalance that would make sense. If they are a result of disc compression on the nerves then no amount of pickle juice will fix that.
 
Cramps are so frustrating, You may not believe this but drinking Dill Pickle Juice will get rid of them. And it works really fast.
Pickle juice or leg cramps?
Answer is: I love leg cramps

Back compression or mineral imbalance?
I get met back corrected every 2 weeks
I still get cramps for many reasons-dehydration, heat, hours on my feet. I take a supplement of magnesium.
3 tablets at bedtime seems to relieve the cramps.
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Pickle juice or leg cramps?
Answer is: I love leg cramps

Back compression or mineral imbalance?
I get met back corrected every 2 weeks
I still get cramps for many reasons-dehydration, heat, hours on my feet. I take a supplement of magnesium.
3 tablets at bedtime seems to relieve the cramps.
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Right now I'm taking a Magnesium Complex as a supplement while my bone graft fusion fills in. Proof will be in the pudding in the fall when I hope to start swinging a coil again. Have added this to my library as a supplement in case I still get cramps. Thanks.
 

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