Elders Camp

southfork

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A few drops of rain and I was on the road heading for one of my favorite sites. False alarm no rain dry and dusty I put on the snake guards and tried the weeds found a few. Three Borax Lake wide stem Cluster Basalt dart points Early Archaic and all of the middle Archaic period 6000 BC top three and a Martis Cluster point late Archaic bottom point. And a couple broken slate blades out of the tractor tracks from some illegal dumping. Should be more goodies in those tracks once the rain washes it down look how black the soil is. N. California foothills
 

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MAMucker

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That’s a great presentation. I enjoyed seeing the landscape. The three Borax Lake Wide Stem points are a type I’ve not heard of before. Very distinct.

Same with the Martis Cluster.

Interesting material too. I didn’t know that basalt came in shades of brown.

I’d like to do a quick east coast review to compare points with similar time period and use. Could be interesting. I’ll get back with something soon.
 

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That’s a great presentation. I enjoyed seeing the landscape. The three Borax Lake Wide Stem points are a type I’ve not heard of before. Very distinct.

Same with the Martis Cluster.

Interesting material too. I didn’t know that basalt came in shades of brown.

I’d like to do a quick east coast review to compare points with similar time period and use. Could be interesting. I’ll get back with something soon.
I like to see the comparison I'll post a few frames from this site of slate-shale-basalt points for you to compare.
 

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That’s a great presentation. I enjoyed seeing the landscape. The three Borax Lake Wide Stem points are a type I’ve not heard of before. Very distinct.

Same with the Martis Cluster.

Interesting material too. I didn’t know that basalt came in shades of brown.

I’d like to do a quick east coast review to compare points with similar time period and use. Could be interesting. I’ll get back with something soon.
That’s a great presentation. I enjoyed seeing the landscape. The three Borax Lake Wide Stem points are a type I’ve not heard of before. Very distinct.

Same with the Martis Cluster.

Interesting material too. I didn’t know that basalt came in shades of brown.

I’d like to do a quick east coast review to compare points with similar time period and use. Could be interesting. I’ll get back with something soon.
Here’s my follow up (try not to fall asleep)
So, it didn’t take long to see that New England does not have a wide stemmed Triangular Point (from any time period) similar to the West Coast Borax Lake wide stemmed point.
The only comparison that I can see is with a Narrow Stemmed Dart type point (assume ATLATL) Called a Merrimack Point that was in high production at about 6000YBP.
This was the last type of the Neville Complex (approx 8600YBP - 3500YBP)

One other possible comparisons we may have from the Late Archaic (5500-3000YBP) of a point with a stem that wide (consistently) is a larger type. Here are examples of extremely resharpened Atlantic Broad Points.
(Shown in the upper half of the second photo taken of one of Boudreau’s examples).
 

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