explorer detectors and batteries.....

[mastereagle22]

One other thing, and I learned this the hard way it seems. DO NOT DROP your detector. It seems to mess them up a little maybe.

 

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[Michigan Badger]

Well since I never owned an Explorer and the one I bought hasn't even arrived yet, well, I can't comment too much on the above posts in regard to the Explorer.

I've used mostly Tesoros over the last few years and found that battery condition made a tremendous difference. I had many times when I was getting zero signals (no beeps) of any type, when I installed fresh alkalines I started getting plenty of signals. The same goes for the ground balance. My Nautilus IIB was really effected by this. If the GB/coil balance got off by a large amount that bugger wouldn't detect as deeply as the lowest cost Bounty Hunter.

With the Tesoros and my 2 Nautilus machines I found the 2400 mah rechargeables worked well. So they didn't need the full voltage of new alkalines. But rechargeables run down differently than alkalines. A rechargeable holds pretty much the same voltage until it suddenly dies. An alkaline continues to run down until it's finally gone.

I'm thinking now the rechargeables are better for the Explorer. That is, assuming 1.2 volts per battery is enough for the Beast.

Badger

 

[Iron Patch]

Just to throw my 2 cents in here. My machine just shuts off when the rechargeables reach half-way point. No warning a box pops up saying the battery power is too low to operate and off she goes. Restart the machine and it will run for a while then do the same thing. Half way down on battery meter.

And I really don't want to stir the pot too much but a Minelab Rep told me that batteries and remaining strength with do some crazy things to the Explorer Line. She even had me remove my battery pack and scrape the contacts because of some "build up" on them that turned them grey instead of being shiny. And you know what it settled my detector down. Not imagination but what I was told to do by an Employee of Minelab.

Sounds like a bad battery pack, had the problem before and it does tend to occur when the pack reaches a certain point and usually does improve slightly when shutting down then powering up. (If you use alks. it makes no sense) Maybe it was the contacts but I doubt it. As for what the rep told you about battery strength LOL!!!

That's the funny thing about the Explorer, problems hide very well. On two occasions I had people visit me who didn't realize their detectors were completely wacked out. That's because they had used em that way for a while. The didn't catch it because the units were detecting things but being very noisy. In both cases a restart cleared things up.

 

[mastereagle22]

I don't think I would laugh at Sandy at Minelab. She knows this machine frontwards and backwards. She is way smarter about the machine than I will ever be. When she says something about the detectors she sells and supports I think I will take her word for it.

My machine is doing what my machine is doing. If you would like you can come hunt with me and see for yourself. End of story.

 

[Iron Patch]

Don't take this the wrong way but I think it's your imagination. 4 detectors all starting to false just because the battery is down to half. Again I don't know what to say to that.

Maybe you you dont know about all minelabs?Mastereagle and a couple other people seem to have the same problem.
Im glad you dont have this problem....and my finds speak for themselves.....

Then you and the others have defective units. A detector that has problems at half power? That makes sense to you? I don't think you're crazy but I'll bet you $1,000 an Explorer does not work that way when it's a 100%.

Ones finds don't tend to prove a lot but if thats's a challenge post em up. Well maybe wait until winter when the conversations get really heated. I really am only trying to help both of you.

.... will you accept the help which is being offered for you today? lol

 

[mastereagle22]

Uhhhhh helloooooo

I posted that my machine wasn't working quite up to snuff and I am sending it in to Minelab. I guess I have been agreeing with you all along while verifying what the others have said. My Minelabe exhibits the exact behavior described but I think that is because it aint quite right (just like its owner).

I don't think it is normal performance for a Minelab Explorer or any other machine.

 

[Iron Patch]

I don't think I would laugh at Sandy at Minelab. She knows this machine frontwards and backwards. She is way smarter about the machine than I will ever be. When she says something about the detectors she sells and supports I think I will take her word for it.

My machine is doing what my machine is doing. If you would like you can come hunt with me and see for yourself. End of story.

Does she? How many years has she used one?

....still laughing.

You have any good Colonial sites?

 

[Iron Patch]

Uhhhhh helloooooo

I posted that my machine wasn't working quite up to snuff and I am sending it in to Minelab. I guess I have been agreeing with you all along while verifying what the others have said. My Minelabe exhibits the exact behavior described but I think that is because it aint quite right (just like its owner).

I don't think it is normal performance for a Minelab Explorer or any other machine.

Got ya.

I seen a bit of tracer fire coming from your direction but guess it was just your detector throwing off sparks.

 

[teverly]

Don't take this the wrong way but I think it's your imagination. 4 detectors all starting to false just because the battery is down to half. Again I don't know what to say to that.

Maybe you you dont know about all minelabs?Mastereagle and a couple other people seem to have the same problem.
Im glad you dont have this problem....and my finds speak for themselves.....

Then you and the others have defective units. A detector that has problems at half power? That makes sense to you? I don't think you're crazy but I'll bet you $1,000 an Explorer does not work that way when it's a 100%.

Ones finds don't tend to prove a lot but if thats's a challenge post em up. Well maybe wait until winter when the conversations get really heated. I really am only trying to help both of you.

.... will you accept the help which is being offered for you today? lol

Well apparently i have done well over the last 14yrs and and i believe that your finds do prove how well you and your machine work.Go to todays finds and look at my post from Saturday.What difference does it make when i change my batteriesAs soon as i changed my half dead batteries and reworked the area the targets came in loud and solid. And like i said even if i run them to half i get around 16hrs of run time out of them.
Also Sandman said he has had the same problem with high end detectors,so apparently mine is not the only mine lab that works that way.
As i also stated it is not just minelab.My fisher 7a pro and the water machine i use to use were the same way.At half life all the signals just got weaker and harder to discern and made hunting a pain.As soon as i changed to new batteries nice loud seperate signals that were distingishable.
And if my unit is defective i will take 3 more just like it.

 

[EDDE]

so then it seems iron patch is a minelab tech,perhaps he can help you guys out

 

[mastereagle22]

Sooo let's add some armor piercing rounds to the mix!!

My machine last night decided to work great for 2 hours on brand new batteries. At 2 hours and 5 minutes it shut itself off! I turned it back on only to be greeted with a scrambled screen. Pulled out the battery pack and waited 30 seconds put them back in and it turned on, told me I had half or less battery power and started acting nutzo! I was doing pretty good too until then, I had found some cool junque! I mean relics. Check out Kinght loses head to Axe post in today's finds for more details. After the machine started acting up all I dug was trash except for one wheat penny. Oh well I am hoping Minelab can rehabilitate my machine, I would hate to have to buy a DFX!!!

 

[teverly]

i have never had that kind of problem with any of mine.Sounds like you may have some loose wires or something...
In the machine i mean..

 

[mastereagle22]

i have never had that kind of problem with any of mine.Sounds like you may have some loose wires or something...
In the machine i mean..

No I think you hit the nail on the head, I DO have some loose wires and there is also something wrong with my machine.

 

[Michigan Badger]

Do any of you guys think the rain will hurt the rhubarb?

 

[mastereagle22]

No rhubard like the rain running down its roots right into the ground. Right on!!!

 

[Iron Patch]

so then it seems iron patch is a minelab tech,perhaps he can help you guys out

So do you actually use an Explorer or is this something you've decided to chime in on and have no idea?

It's very simple, if every Explorer I have ever owned or used did not show negative signs at 1/2 power (or 1/4 or 1/8), a user who has encountered such, has a problem. When the response from Minelab is... sometimes the batteries at half power can do funny things, I'd say every Minelab user better become a self-taught tech..

All but one of the problems I've had with Explorer detectors the unit was still able to still see targets. I always thought that it must suck for people who got used to the detector this way because they are missing out.

PS... I'm more than happy with my detecting as I'm sure most on here are too. I'm glad at least most still see the humour in this. Right now I'm just wearing civilian clothes but will suit up if this gets out of hand.

 

[Iron Patch]

One other thing, and I learned this the hard way it seems. DO NOT DROP your detector. It seems to mess them up a little maybe.

That is much the same for a $5,000 thin, dug token.

 

[mastereagle22]

Well the Beast is leaving on a Jet Plane, or truck or bus or whatever they shipped it to Vegas on.

 

[Iron Patch]

Don't take this the wrong way but I think it's your imagination. 4 detectors all starting to false just because the battery is down to half. Again I don't know what to say to that.

Maybe you you dont know about all minelabs?Mastereagle and a couple other people seem to have the same problem.
Im glad you dont have this problem....and my finds speak for themselves.....

Then you and the others have defective units. A detector that has problems at half power? That makes sense to you? I don't think you're crazy but I'll bet you $1,000 an Explorer does not work that way when it's a 100%.

Ones finds don't tend to prove a lot but if thats's a challenge post em up. Well maybe wait until winter when the conversations get really heated. I really am only trying to help both of you.

.... will you accept the help which is being offered for you today? lol

Well apparently i have done well over the last 14yrs and and i believe that your finds do prove how well you and your machine work.Go to todays finds and look at my post from Saturday.What difference does it make when i change my batteriesAs soon as i changed my half dead batteries and reworked the area the targets came in loud and solid. And like i said even if i run them to half i get around 16hrs of run time out of them.
Also Sandman said he has had the same problem with high end detectors,so apparently mine is not the only mine lab that works that way.
As i also stated it is not just minelab.My fisher 7a pro and the water machine i use to use were the same way.At half life all the signals just got weaker and harder to discern and made hunting a pain.As soon as i changed to new batteries nice loud seperate signals that were distingishable.
And if my unit is defective i will take 3 more just like it.

Regarding other units I have no opinion not having used anything but Minelab for a long time.

As for finds, that may be a valid point within your own hunting but means very little when comparing to others. The site determines the finds and not the detector. I'd gladly choose a Garrett ace and a great site over an Explorer and a good site, any day of the week.

PS... Where are all your 1600s & 1700s coins?

 

[Michigan Badger]

Well the Beast is leaving on a Jet Plane, or truck or bus or whatever they shipped it to Vegas on.

Vegas....this is in honor of Vegas!