Explorer Se Damn Nails !!!!!!!!!

[Whippetdog]

Any SE experts out there that can offer some tips or advice. I know nails can cause anybody a fit, but they are killing me. I am still learning my SE, but the nails get me everytime. I am relic hunting and using all metal, but just can't distingish what is a nail and what is a good find. The nails seem to give a good signal and then a nail pops out. Usually the small old rusty ones.

Is there any way to maybe see it is a nail and avoid the dig? I really don't mind digging everything, but the time a waste on nail, cutts into time I could be digging schrapnel, musket balls etc.

Thanks

 

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[Sandman]

Since you are using All Metal mode, it is doing what it is supposed to do. Old rusty nails give off a stronger signal than new nails. Unfortunately the relics you are looking for is near the same conductivity. Musket balls should give you different numbers on the screen than iron nails. Deeper bullets could read the same or less than the rusty iron so you must dig the trash to find the good stuff.

Relic hunters don't just find the "good stuff," they dig a lot of trash too. At least you have one of the best detectors made up to this point. Good Luck.

Sandman

 

[neilo]

Iron nails will come up on the left of the screen, non iron items to the right.The conductive readings, depending how conductive they are the more to the top of the screen the less to the bottom. You could also change you signal response to the ferrous mode. This would make your high ferrous iron nails come out as a low tone and your good low ferrous items come out at a higher tone.It should help you isolate the good items from the nails good hunting seeya Neilo

 

[Rowdy]

Iron nails will come up on the left of the screen, non iron items to the right.The conductive readings, depending how conductive they are the more to the top of the screen the less to the bottom.

So the same conductivity reading could appear on either side of the screen depending on ferrous content? I've never worked with a minelab, and I'm trying to understand how they work.

 

[birdman]

My old CZ5 used to do the same thing I would dig to China for an old rusty nail but it would go deep.

 

[mastereagle22]

I am having the same problem. Yesterday I got a signal that was supposed to be silver, a brass door knob ring was popped out at 2 inches.

This weekend again solid signal, did the wiggle and everything, should be a good signal, pulled a bolt sl larger around than a pencil and six inches long with two stainless steel washers out of the ground at 6 inches. Crazy.

 

[teverly]

Remember when you hunt in all metal mode there is no discrimination.The machine read conductivity and ferrous content.
So stainless steel,Aluminum ect will read farther and higher to the right.Even if it just a large bolt or washer.
Even in discrimination mode i still get false targets that end up being deep nails.
Also if you are running your recovery setting on fast or fast/deep you will lose some of the id ability of the machine.
hope this helps and not confuses.....

 

[edgemano]

Try using ferrous tone this makes iron have a deeper tone it helped me. good luck i have found a lot of good stuff with my SE.i also use the digital screen.

 

[Whippetdog]

Thanks for all the help. I am slowly learning the machine. All the tips and info helped.

Gary

 

[hollowpointred]

the SE can be fooled by old nails for sure. most of the time for me they sound good only in one direction. of course sometimes good stuff can behave the same way so i usually dig them out to see what they are.

 

[Iron Patch]

Use a small amount discrimination. The null is a very good tool in being able to determine what's iron and not. For the targets you are having problems with circle and hit them from many different angles. Most nails might ring in decent one way, but null the other. Nulling around a target and through a target are two different things. Also, another clue when you X the target is to see if it rings the strongest at the same point from each direction. The signal on larger iron or irregular shaped iron will seem to move as you sweep from different directions. Those are the general rules but can always be exceptions but to be beyond that you need hundreds of hours and some very fine tuned ears. Anyone who thinks they know an Explorer in a month or two is only fooling themself. (or doesn't have to work for signals where they hunt)

 

[mastereagle22]

I have had mine for a little over a month now and I feel like I am only qualified to turn it on. Not even to swing it.

 

[Iron Patch]

I have had mine for a little over a month now and I feel like I am only qualified to turn it on. Not even to swing it.

The best thing you can do is hunt a few times with an experienced user. I learned all my lessons the hard way being the first around here to use an Explorer.

 

[mastereagle22]

I have had mine for a little over a month now and I feel like I am only qualified to turn it on. Not even to swing it.

The best thing you can do is hunt a few times with an experienced user. I learned all my lessons the hard way being the first around here to use an Explorer.

That would be great if I could find someone. I live in Cape Girardeau, MO and no one here owns Minelabm some haven't even heard of it.

 

[hollowpointred]

here is a cool explorer site with some useful info.

http://www.treasuregizmo.com/settings.htm

 

[shootist]

Ive had an explorer for a little over a year. I used to dig those deep rusty nails that sound like a coin but I switched to ferrous sounds and hardly ever dig nails at all anymore. It is true that a lot of items will sound good and have good numbers and turn out to be stainless or copper tubing I always dig all of those signals but I like keeping the copper. Over time you will be able to tell if its trash or treasure most of the time by working around the target and seeing how it behaves from different angles,though sometimes there may be trash with the treasure. The machine isnt perfect but it takes a lot of the guesswork out of it and you will get a lot better over time if you are willing to put the time into the machine. I learned the explorer completely on my own though I read everything I could find on it and I am by no means its master,but Im a lot better than I used to be. This link contains more information than any other place I have found hands down http://www.findmall.com/list.php?10
again you have tobe willing to put the time in GL with the explorer...Shoot

 

[Mirage]

Another very important point - Slow down your swing. A lot of times when you swing at the "normal slow minelab" sweep speed you will get false good tones with the iron. If you slow the sweep to a crawl many times you will only get the iron tones.

Bob

 

[Iron Patch]

Another very important point - Slow down your swing. A lot of times when you swing at the "normal slow minelab" sweep speed you will get false good tones with the iron. If you slow the sweep to a crawl many times you will only get the iron tones.

Bob

That is a good point but should be taken for granted because anyone who has their disc. set on the low side wouldn't be able to process all they were hearing without going slow. The null plays as much of a roll as the signal when hunting in iron. Clean ground you can get away with a little more.

 

[Montana Jim]

Don't take this the wrong way...

#1 - Go where there are less nails... you're relic hunting, you're gonna find relic nails.

#2 - Dig 'em... smile that you found another relic... and press on.

#3 - All the experience explained here will only help you realize we all dig nails.

IMO - There are no secrets except to discriminate...