Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 Flying Eagle Cent!

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Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 Flying Eagle Cent!

Merry Christmas Everybody! :occasion14:

Got back to the Allen Family Farm in Marlbank, Ontario for a 4 hour hunt on Thursday and made some pretty decent finds! ;D Even though this is my fifth hunt at this site, I've always felt that I'm missing something good here, I guess that's why I keep coming back. ;D My friend's grandparents house was built around 1900, but there's obviously been quite a bit of previous activity here over the past 150 years. :icon_thumright: The current owners grandmother used to tell my friend stories when he was a kid of finding coins when she was working in the vegetable garden! Well, those stories were definitely true! As of the end of yesterdays hunt, I've now found 5 Canadian Large Pennies! The pennies I've found have all been dated between 1882 & 1907.

I decided to turn up the sensitivity as I did at the Myrtle School site last week and dig anything I couldn't I.D. at a depth below 4". This is when the broken crotal bells started turning up. I also found the 'clangers' as they were imbedded in the top portion of the body of the bell, although the base of the bell was nowhere to be found! :dontknow: A couple of the Canadian LC's popped up, these were dated 1882 & 1900. What I found next was what I thought was some type of good luck token, because when it came out of the hole I noticed that it was the same size as our standard Canadian penny, only thicker! :icon_scratch: When I looked at it more closely all I could see was a hand giving a 'thumbs up' sign, similar to this :icon_thumright:. But, when I got home and washed it . . . was I ever surprised to see a flying eagle and the date 1858! :o

'The Flying Eagle cent is a United States coin that was minted from 1856 to 1858. The coin was designed by James B. Longacre. The Flying Eagle was the first small-sized cent coin minted in the US, replacing the earlier large cent. The obverse of the coin depicts an eagle in flight, a unique subject for the obverse of American coins. The reverse of the coin has the words ONE CENT surrounded by a wreath, similar to the reverse on the later Indian Head cent and Wheat cent minted until 1958. The United States Mint in Philadelphia struck about 700 Flying Eagle cents in 1856 as pattern pieces, a way to show influential congressmen and senators what these coins would look like. In 1858, there was a "large letter" and "small letter" variety produced. An easy way to tell the difference between large-letter and small-letter varieties is to look at the word 'America'. In the large letter variety, the letters A and M are joined, whereas in the small letter they are not. The small letter variety is a low relief design. The eagle is shallower in the die and the letters are smaller than those used in 1857 and on the 1858 large letter variety. The design didn't last long due to the obverse design opposing the reverse design. The eagle's head and tail were opposite the wreath. The presses had to strike the coins harder to get the design up fully. This caused dies to fail more often. The design was replaced by the Indian Cent in 1859.’

The 1858 Flying Eagle Penny I found appears to be of the ‘small letter’ variety.

My next exciting find came from a depth of only 3" and when I came out of the soil all I could think was, "what the heck is this"?! :laughing7: It had a deep brown patina that immediately started to turn a beautiful shade of green right before my eyes! :o It turned out to be an 1854 Bank of Upper Canada, One Half Penny Token! This is my earliest coin find todate and is definitely a keeper for me! :thumbsup:

‘Upper Canada was ‘The Province of Ontario’ and the Bank was centered in Toronto {then York]. Canada became a country in 1867, when these were minted; Upper Canada was a Province of Great Britain. In 1840, the Union Act was passed to reunite the Provinces of Upper and Lower Canada into the Province of Canada, although the act did not become official until 1841. Under the Province of Canada, only bank tokens were issued and no merchant or private tokens were allowed. No Province of Canada tokens were issued after 1857, as the British government introduced 1, 5, 10 and 20-cent pieces in 1858.’

I do apologize for the quality of the pictures of the Flying Eagle Penny! :-\ I must have taken at least 12 different shots of this coin in different lights and I still couldn't get it to display the date properly! :BangHead:

Thanks for looking and may you all have a peaceful holiday!
Dave
 

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Re: Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 US Flying Eagle Cent!

Here are some better pics I just took of the coins in natural sunlight. :icon_thumright:
These pics better represent what the coins really look like! ;D
At least I think they look better! :tongue3:
 

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Re: Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 US Flying Eagle Cent!

congratulations dave great posting great photos. James found the exact "dragon slayer" type Canadian halfpenny when he came down to dig with me here in Va. My old diggin' buddy Jeff (UMRGolf) found the larger Penny size, if memory serves me right, I think it was the same date too. I don't know why but we seem to find Canadian Coppers down here quite frequently... Nice finds buddy! :occasion14:
 

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{Sentinel} said:
congratulations dave great posting great photos. James found the exact "dragon slayer" type Canadian halfpenny when he came down to dig with me here in Va. My old diggin' buddy Jeff (UMRGolf) found the larger Penny size, if memory serves me right, I think it was the same date too. I don't know why but we seem to find Canadian Coppers down here quite frequently... Nice finds buddy! :occasion14:

Thanks very much for your kind words Josh! ;D From what I read about these coins, they were minted in pretty large numbers, but only for a short time period. It makes me wonder how these made it so far south from Upper Canada. Maybe they were brought to the US by Canadian or British sailors spending & losing them along the way? :icon_scratch:

Hope you and your family have a great Christmas! :thumbsup:
Dave :occasion14:
 

Re: Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 Flying Eagle Cent!

Nice finds, I have only found one flying eagle in all my years hunting here in the USA. I'm sure there is more to find on that farm.
 

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That Bank of Upper Canada token is in awesome shape. I found a one penny version a couple of years ago, and it was toasted!
 

Re: Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 Flying Eagle Cent!

sweet FE cent!!!! MR TUFF
 

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Congrats on the flying eagle :icon_thumleft:

like Modern Miner, I too found my first about a week ago, toasted. If I wet it and hold it at the right angle I can see the eagle ;D

Great finds and Merry Christmas
 

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Good finds :icon_thumleft: farm fields are the best , i like that Upper Canadian bank token i found one a few weeks ago in a corn field 1857 half cent , i think yours makes 3 in less then a month that i have seen posted on T-Net strange huh ? how that works and all 3 came out of the ground in decent shape . Good hunting and Holidays :thumbsup: Jim
 

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Re: Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 Flying Eagle Cent!

Mary Christmas Antiquarian, looks like you got a really nice Xmas gift from the MDing elves. I wish that these coins could talk and tell the story of how they got to where they are. I found an 1879 IH penny here in NS a month ago and it really gets me thinking about these coins and the traveling that was done back then.
You have a great place to dig I am sure you will find lots more goodies.

Oh I can vouch for the Muskol, this stuff not only keeps bugs and ticks away but will keep coyotes, bares and mountain loins away. (woman too).
ZDD
 

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deano said:
Great finds, Flying Eagle cent is at the top of my wish list!!

Thanks deano! :icon_thumright:
Best of luck to you finding one too!
Dave

J.Cache said:
I love seeing those really old finds in Canada. My area wasn't settled until the 1890's, so I'm jealous of your old history. Great post/pictures as usual Antiquarian!

I live just east of Toronto in Oshawa, but I found these items on a farm property in Eastern Ontario. You'd be surprised the amount of 'old stuff' I've found this year in 'newer' areas! :thumbsup:

Thanks for your post Cache! :icon_thumright:
Dave

RiverRat3 said:
Very nice finds.

Thanks RiverRat3! :thumbsup:

jewelerguy said:
very nice flying eagle.. not many diggers get to check that one off their list. congrats! :thumbsup:

Funny thing was I didn't know what it was until I got it home and gave it a bath! :laughing7: It's only from being a member on this site that I was able to recognise it for what it really was. ;D

Thanks,
Dave

Steve in PA said:
Nice finds, I have only found one flying eagle in all my years hunting here in the USA. I'm sure there is more to find on that farm.

Thanks very much for your words of support Steve! :thumbsup: I'll definitely be heading back there again in the spring to see what the frost has pushed up! :icon_thumright:

Best of luck to you,
Dave

KYshooter said:
That Bank of Upper Canada token is in awesome shape. I found a one penny version a couple of years ago, and it was toasted!

Thanks for posting KYshooter! :icon_thumright: I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the condition either . . . I still find it hard to believe that it's 158 years old! :o

That's what I need next is to find a one penny version! :laughing7:
Dave

Mr Tuff said:
sweet FE cent!!!! MR TUFF

Thanks Mr Tuff! I enjoy seeing your detecting videos posted here! :icon_thumright:
 

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Nice finds Dave! The eagle is far from home :headbang:
 

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BobinSouthVA said:
Congrats on the flying eagle :icon_thumleft:

like Modern Miner, I too found my first about a week ago, toasted. If I wet it and hold it at the right angle I can see the eagle ;D

Great finds and Merry Christmas

Thanks very much Bob! :icon_thumright: I haven't done anything more to it other then use a soft toothbrush and dish soap on it. I think I'll leave it 'as is' for the next owner! :thumbsup:

Merry Christmas to you and your family as well, :hello:
Dave

Deepdiger60 said:
Good finds :icon_thumleft: farm fields are the best , i like that Upper Canadian bank token i found one a few weeks ago in a corn field 1857 half cent , i think yours makes 3 in less then a month that i have seen posted on T-Net strange huh ? how that works and all 3 came out of the ground in decent shape . Good hunting and Holidays :thumbsup: Jim

Thanks for the info Jim. :icon_thumright: I've seen a number of these tokens posted here over the past year, I just never dreamed that I'd find one! :laughing7:

Best of luck to you Jim,
Dave

Zodiacdiverdave said:
Mary Christmas Antiquarian, looks like you got a really nice Xmas gift from the MDing elves. I wish that these coins could talk and tell the story of how they got to where they are. I found an 1879 IH penny here in NS a month ago and it really gets me thinking about these coins and the traveling that was done back then.
You have a great place to dig I am sure you will find lots more goodies.

Oh I can vouch for the Muskol, this stuff not only keeps bugs and ticks away but will keep coyotes, bares and mountain loins away. (woman too).
ZDD

Merry Christmas to you and your family also Dave! :occasion14: Nova Scotia is a very old and beautiful province, also lived and worked there for a year back in 1983. I only wish that was detecting back then as I might never have left! Also, if I'd managed to find myself a girl there, I'd definitely have stayed for at least one more year! :laughing7:
I've used the Muskol aresol spray for years when I was camping and golfing. Now I use it when I'm detecting in the woods! :thumbsup:

Dave
 

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SouthJerseyJim said:
Nice finds Dave! The eagle is far from home :headbang:

He sure is Jim! ;D
I guess he enjoyed his time vacation time here so much that he decided to put down roots! :laughing7:
 

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RiverRat3 said:
Very nice finds.

Thanks RiverRat3! :icon_thumright:

Dave
 

Re: Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 Flying Eagle Cent!

Now your getting somewhere :hello2:

Don't look at your VDU & try & ID them, hear them & dig, simple, takes longer but as you practice you speed up.
 

Re: Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 Flying Eagle Cent!

Nice coins Dave! Looks like a spot that needs some more hunting, hope you find a big silver there. HH
 

Re: Farm Hunt - 1854 Canadian Half Cent & 1858 Flying Eagle Cent!

CRUSADER said:
Now your getting somewhere :hello2:

Don't look at your VDU & try & ID them, hear them & dig, simple, takes longer but as you practice you speed up.

Cheers Cru! I'm trading in my Ace 350 in a couple of weeks towards the AT Pro, so I'm hoping 2012 will be even better. Hope you and your Dad are able to get out together again soon! :icon_thumright:

MKnTenn said:
Nice coins Dave! Looks like a spot that needs some more hunting, hope you find a big silver there. HH

Thanks for your words of encouragement Mk! :thumbsup:
Best of luck to you in the new year!
Dave
 

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