✅ SOLVED farmers field hunt find unsure as too what this is any ideas

[onlinesniper]

Hi all at TNET hunted a ploughed field today and found this item, im unsure as what to call it and everytime i attempted a google search i ended up with images of ironman in a neckscarf lol any help appreciated guys thankyou HH

 

[granthansen]

I couldn't find anything either. Interested to see if anyone ID's it. Cool find.

 

[CRUSADER]

Looks like a late 18th - early 19th C brass mount. No idea what it mounted to Unusual & neat find.

 

[onlinesniper]

Looks like a late 18th - early 19th C brass mount. No idea what it mounted to Unusual & neat find.

Cheers guys it was my last signal as i headed off the field it is a pretty neat interesting find il keep searching for info thanks for the heads up Crusader HH

 

[MrSchulz]

Try posting in the What is it? part of the forum. Looks brass to me..

 

[BuckleBoy]

Post in "What is it," not "Today's Finds."

Looks like brass.


-Buck

 

[Breezie]

It looks like brass to me, but if it is cast iron or brass, it could be part of either a figural clock, bank, door stop, or andiron. Charles Lindbergh? Neat find, Breezie

Does it attract a magnet?

 

[Joturkey]

I cannot say for certain, but if the farmer is rural with no local development near field I would guess it is from an old tombstone, I was a monument stonecutter by trade and this really has all the hallmarks of a bronze figure attached to a mid 1800-early 1900's headstone, sand casting, no foundry proofs on back and conical shaped mounting post , a stone cutter would dowel a hole into usually a marble headstone which was soft and attach the bronze piece which would expand the marble to wedge into place, it was not uncommon many years ago for old abandoned cemeteries to have headstones removed and plowed under for planting..................sad but true. I have never seen one quite like this , but have seen many one of a kind unusual things in cemeteries over the years.

 

[Breezie]

Joturkey, good call on it being a tombstone bronze figure. The castings for bronze/brass figural clocks, iron banks, etc. were cast the same way with a round attaching post like this one. Looking at the face and hair of this figure, it does have an angelic look. The blowing scarf could also indicate angels/flight. Either way, we're both on the same page. Breezie

 

[Joturkey]

Joturkey, good call on it being a tombstone bronze figure. The castings for bronze/brass figural clocks, iron banks, etc. were cast the same way with a round attaching post like this one. Looking at the face and hair of this figure, it does have an angelic look. The blowing scarf could also indicate angels/flight. Either way, we're both on the same page. Breezie

I was holding back on that until further input unless I was really wrong lol , but yes with the head looking upward and away and scarf blowing upwards in same direction seems to have an ascending to heaven implication indicative of most headstone symbolism, hard to tell from pic but also appears to be a heart on his chest, could possibly be a custom made casting resembling him. the strangest one I ever saw was when I was contracted to restore a heastone 1800's for a man that was "not so nice" in life , his headstone had a hand with downward pointed finger with a chain coming up from ground wrapped around it, apparently it was a tourist attraction for people that are into old symbolisms like that.

 

[Breezie]

Joturkey, I downloaded one of the pics to see if I could find the heart, but instead saw what appears to be goggles. His jacket is open with several buttons, and then one closed button at the bottom. So with the scarf, goggles, and short jacket, it could be an aviator. At any rate, it's a very interesting find. Breezie

 

[Joturkey]

Breezie, I think you are correct there, never saw that, what seems really unusuall about the piece is how old this one must be and how the end of the scarf protrudes from the rest of the cast, protrusions like that were rare in my trade, they were always cast in one uniform shape, neat piece whatever it is though, would be interesting to see it cleaned and restored out of curiosity.

 

[onlinesniper]

Hi guys thanks very much for your expert input I am very grateful and chuffed that I now know what this wonderful item is, I also apologise for posting this in the wrong thread I should have posted there too, I would love to have this piece restored and would like to know how to go about doing so, once again thankyou very much

Mark HH

 

[Joturkey]

There are many online sites for restoring bronze /copper, should be no problem, but best to do so only if you decide to keep it. I noticed on the back, a stroke mark to draw the molten bronze into the scarf protrusion, the irregular edging on back,and handmade hallmarks, IMHO I think this is a one of a kind piece. Collectors are rabid for one of a kind things, whether from an artist,statues, figurines, mint snafu's on coins, etc. But they want them in "as found" condition. Good luck with your future hunting, nice piece.

 

[onlinesniper]

Thankyou for the speedy reply I may sell this piece as is then and put the proceeds towards my new detector thankyou for the brilliant advice

Mark HH

 

[lawdog601]

I was holding back on that until further input unless I was really wrong lol , but yes with the head looking upward and away and scarf blowing upwards in same direction seems to have an ascending to heaven implication indicative of most headstone symbolism, hard to tell from pic but also appears to be a heart on his chest, could possibly be a custom made casting resembling him. the strangest one I ever saw was when I was contracted to restore a heastone 1800's for a man that was "not so nice" in life , his headstone had a hand with downward pointed finger with a chain coming up from ground wrapped around it, apparently it was a tourist attraction for people that are into old symbolisms like that.

Interestingly enough, I know of a grave with the finger pointing downward with the chain wrapped around it as well. As a child, I always heard it was a witches grave. Lol! Who knows? Sorry to be off subject from the original question, but I found your post interesting.

 

[Joturkey]

Interestingly enough, I know of a grave with the finger pointing downward with the chain wrapped around it as well. As a child, I always heard it was a witches grave. Lol! Who knows? Sorry to be off subject from the original question, but I found your post interesting.

LOL, yeah they were rarely used, I guess you had to be an real __________ in life to get one of those put on your headstone. The one that I restored apparently he was quite the evil man when alive.

 

[Dano Sverige]

To be honest Breezie it looks more like an old sailor/captain to me. The "goggles" could be a ribbon some sailors used to tie the top of their shirts. The jacket looks like a uniform type. The scarf blowing in the wind and the head turned gazing off into the distance is indicative of someone standing on the bridge/bow of a ship.

Just my opinion.

 

[onlinesniper]

Hi all its been a while but thanks to the president of the Huguenot society pointing me in the right direction I have found this picture of a Lord Byrom check how uncannily similar it is, I will upload it now

 

[onlinesniper]