Field Results from The Sho-Nuff Test

aarthrj3811 · Apr 9, 2011

~LT~

You know Art, as much thrashing around for 10,000 posts and bashing a lot of devices, you would think that someone would have realized that any MFD uses L rods which could be coat hangers. Or that an Examiner could be used for a MFD with L rods.

One of them may know these facts but don’t want to get it out that these devices can be used with a set of rods or as stand alone MFD..what the rods are made of is decided by the operator..I like 3/16 brass rods..I like the fact that if for some reason if I want to mark a spot as a reference point I can just reach down and made a line in the dirt..Art

aarthrj3811 · Apr 9, 2011

Facts....are you serious? You haven't supplied any facts!
Other than how "electronic" LRL's are the same as bent coat hangers
Oh yeah....another non-supported "fact" is going back to that whole calculator thing, and how the pseudoscience believers (LRL users) have failed to support their claim a calculator can produce various usable frequencies. They (pseudoscience believers) sure do kick up a lot of dust, for not having any support structure

Sorry SWR that I wondered off subject..I just thought I would pass along a few facts to the thousands of LRL users on treasure net..Art

EE THr · Apr 9, 2011

SWR said:
aarthrj3811 said:

Sorry SWR that I wondered off subject..I just thought I would pass along a few facts to the thousands of LRL users on treasure net..Art

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I see the pseudoscience believers assume there are thousands of LRL users on TreasureNet....instead of the actual three or four

Yeah, artie has post that there are around 8,500 LRL users out there.

Has anybody ever bumped into one out in the woods, doing their robot walk, going, "Did I feel something there? Did I feel something there?"

:laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

aarthrj3811 · Apr 9, 2011

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,374810.0.html

Once again a thread is killed by sceptics who are so anxious to
demonstrate their superiority. Like many folks these days they
don't believe folks have the sense to believe the truth or know
the truth from a lie. I often wonder where that fear comes from.
Wonder but don't care. Would have liked to hear what the man
had to say. If he is still on the forum i'd appreciate a private message
from him. I've already heard what the sceptics and thought police have
to say. siegfried schlagrule

8550 LRL and MFD users will go into the field and enjoy their hobby…
Soon to be 10,000 then 15,000 and then even more
And Millions of Dowsers will also be using their Dowsing rods

EE THr · Apr 9, 2011

aarthrj3811 said:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,374810.0.html

Once again a thread is killed by sceptics who are so anxious to
demonstrate their superiority. Like many folks these days they
don't believe folks have the sense to believe the truth or know
the truth from a lie. I often wonder where that fear comes from.
Wonder but don't care. Would have liked to hear what the man
had to say. If he is still on the forum i'd appreciate a private message
from him. I've already heard what the sceptics and thought police have
to say. siegfried schlagrule

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8550 LRL and MFD users will go into the field and enjoy their hobby…
Soon to be 10,000 then 15,000 and then even more
And Millions of Dowsers will also be using their Dowsing rods

Last time I asked you for verification of that 8550 figure, artie, after several replies back and forth, you finally posted forum quotes that totalled less than a dozen!

#11 in the link below!

"Comment about the above list: Even though this list has been up for awhile, the LRL promoters continue to perform according to these Predictions! Apparently they don't care about being exposed by the scientifically accepted Proof of Prediction standard. They just can't stop themselves! Very interesting. But also very sad."

:laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

fenixdigger · Apr 9, 2011

I clicked show just in case I was wrong and somebody had experimented. I knew better. But since I did, here's a good one for you.

I was in an area about 5 miles from the nearest house driving to a hunt site when I see a guy with a wish stick.

I pulled up to him and asked how long he had been using it. He said it was a metal detector and I opened a case and took mine

out. He was shocked and we compared notes and have been hunting together ever since. Of course he lives 600 miles from me, but

we hunt about 4 days a month.

Pull out the probability and stats book and figure that one. Since then we have run into 4 other LRL users from different areas.

In my circle about 8 won't post here because of the flack. Just because YOU don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist.

SHO-NUFF

aarthrj3811 · Apr 9, 2011

I clicked show just in case I was wrong and somebody had experimented. I knew better. But since I did, here's a good one for you.
I was in an area about 5 miles from the nearest house driving to a hunt site when I see a guy with a wish stick.
I pulled up to him and asked how long he had been using it. He said it was a metal detector and I opened a case and took mine
out. He was shocked and we compared notes and have been hunting together ever since. Of course he lives 600 miles from me, but
we hunt about 4 days a month.
Pull out the probability and stats book and figure that one. Since then we have run into 4 other LRL users from different areas.

In my circle about 8 won't post here because of the flack. Just because YOU don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist.

SHO-NUFF

So far over 60 owner/operators have posted on this board..Only three people have claimed to unhappy about their devices..The 8550 number comes from E-Mail exchanges between myself and only 15 LRL manufactures on a monthly basis..Art

EE THr · Apr 9, 2011

fenixdigger said:
I clicked show just in case I was wrong and somebody had experimented. I knew better. But since I did, here's a good one for you.

I was in an area about 5 miles from the nearest house driving to a hunt site when I see a guy with a wish stick.

I pulled up to him and asked how long he had been using it. He said it was a metal detector and I opened a case and took mine

out. He was shocked and we compared notes and have been hunting together ever since. Of course he lives 600 miles from me, but

we hunt about 4 days a month.

Pull out the probability and stats book and figure that one. Since then we have run into 4 other LRL users from different areas.

In my circle about 8 won't post here because of the flack. Just because YOU don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist.

SHO-NUFF

That would be a zero.

(#37.)

:laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

aarthrj3811 · Apr 9, 2011

That would be a zero.

(#37.)

37. The conclusion of the entire pattern shows up when the CA insists that others trust him by simply believing his claims, yet he always distrusts others. This is proven when an LRL promoter says they "won't get paid" the stated reward for passing a double-blind test, even though there is a legally binding contract for performance. Or they don't trust that it is a fair test, even if administered by an unbiased proctor. It's a "You must trust me, but I can't trust you" condition. And that's the classic "Confidence Game."

Thank you for the admission..art

EE THr · Apr 9, 2011

aarthrj3811 said:
That would be a zero.

(#37.)

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37. The conclusion of the entire pattern shows up when the CA insists that others trust him by simply believing his claims, yet he always distrusts others. This is proven when an LRL promoter says they "won't get paid" the stated reward for passing a double-blind test, even though there is a legally binding contract for performance. Or they don't trust that it is a fair test, even if administered by an unbiased proctor. It's a "You must trust me, but I can't trust you" condition. And that's the classic "Confidence Game."

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Thank you for the admission..art

Wow, artie, did you switch sides?

Maybe you've been hanging out with Big J and ER?

:laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

aarthrj3811 · Apr 9, 2011

Wow, artie, did you switch sides?

Will the real Con-Artist please stand ?

EE THr · Apr 9, 2011

aarthrj3811 said:
Wow, artie, did you switch sides?

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Will the real Con-Artist please stand ?

If you can't locate your own people, how do you expect to locate treasure?

Or the targets at Carl's test?

:laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

fenixdigger · Apr 9, 2011

Dang it!! We got rained out. We were going to do the experiment with the neighbors after a quick hunt. Do not try this with

lightning going on.

I'll have done this with the other devices, but I will swap out the sample for a mfd and the Examiner and post those results also.

If anyone dowses, it would be interesting to see the results of that.

EE THr · Apr 9, 2011

fenixdigger said:
Dang it!! We got rained out. We were going to do the experiment with the neighbors after a quick hunt. Do not try this with

lightning going on.

I'll have done this with the other devices, but I will swap out the sample for a mfd and the Examiner and post those results also.

If anyone dowses, it would be interesting to see the results of that.

fenix brothers---

Your test is for dowsing. It doesn't belong on an LRL forum.

Tell the other "fenixes," too.

:laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

aarthrj3811 · Apr 9, 2011

~EE~

fenix brothers---
Your test is for dowsing. It doesn't belong on an LRL forum.
Tell the other "fenixes," too.

EE THr · Apr 9, 2011

It's all about the devices, not how to dowse.

:laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

fenixdigger · Apr 9, 2011

Art I see from your post they still can't tell the difference. EE's memory seems to be going as well. It's to be expected. Just as I don't expect him to be able to do the experiment. Likely beyond the grasp.

EE THr · Apr 9, 2011

fenixdigger said:
Art I see from your post they still can't tell the difference. EE's memory seems to be going as well. It's to be expected. Just as I don't expect him to be able to do the experiment. Likely beyond the grasp.

22. If on a forum, to stop further on-topic questions, the CA may also post nonsensical comments.

As predicted.

Science: (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is an enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the world.

:laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp · Apr 9, 2011

EE in response to eddies post on the chance of his meeting another under those circumstances

you posted -->That would be a zero.

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You will of course post the mathematical equations & results from your 'lrl' calculator showing this here?

Don Jose de La Mancha

fenixdigger · Apr 9, 2011

Glad I clicked show on that one

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Oh...snap. The Sho-Nuff Dowsing Test got rained out ::

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We'll never find out if bent coat hangers replicate the "electronics" in Long Range Locators :::sigh:::
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Someone say something about nonsensical posts? Your list of acceptable skeptic actions is right on. Good job.

Skip the fluff,,,try the SHO-NUFF

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