Field Results from The Sho-Nuff Test

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hi swr, you posted -->but claims to use a calculator to find buried (Arrrggg) treasure
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Calculators are extremely important in treasure hunting, particularly sunken treasures .

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

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[EE THr]

EE in response to eddies post on the chance of his meeting another under those circumstances

you posted -->That would be a zero.

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You will of course post the mathematical equations & results from your 'lrl' calculator showing this here?

Don Jose de La Mancha

It was an estimation based on certain known scientific phenomenon.

 

[EE THr]

Dang it!! We got rained out. We were going to do the experiment with the neighbors after a quick hunt. Do not try this with

lightning going on.

I'll have done this with the other devices, but I will swap out the sample for a mfd and the Examiner and post those results also.

If anyone dowses, it would be interesting to see the results of that.

Oh...snap. The Sho-Nuff Dowsing Test got rained out ::out:::

We'll never find out if bent coat hangers replicate the "electronics" in Long Range Locators :::sigh:::

ROFL

 

[EE THr]

Glad I clicked show on that one

fenix brothers----

Come Awwwwwwhn....you don't really have anyone on Ignore! Good grief---who do you think you're kidding!





For crip sakes, there's only a half dozen people who are in the room anymore, so what the heck do you care?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

EE, you posted -->It was an estimation based on certain known scientific phenomenon
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figures man, figures, we need 'scientific' proof.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[EE THr]

EE, you posted -->It was an estimation based on certain known scientific phenomenon
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figures man, figures, we need 'scientific' proof.

Don Jose de La Mancha

It's a very complex calculation involving the nano bio-electrons coefficient of the half life of a moron.

 

[pronghorn]

Looks like I need to cut off that excuse exit.

A DOWSING TEST----Items required----L Rod or forked Tree limb. A dowser

Procedure---(Not really needed, above items should do)

Can all the folks here see the difference between this and the SHO-NUFF experiment? **** NO SIGNAL SOURCE****

Now if you boys can twist this around to make your justifications, everyone is going to laugh at you. ( again)

I was trying to make the experiment cheap and so simple a howler monkey could do it. But then again,,,,,

How's that compulsive response thing working out?

**** NO SIGNAL SOURCE****

Fenix, are you saying if I put a silver quarter to my right
6 feet and another silver quarter to my left 25 feet that
one or both of these silver quarters is sending a signal
in a line to the other? Let's assume your answer is yes
because if it is no how would the L rods move when you
pass between the two.

Some questions for you...
So, how far can the quarters be apart and you can still
detect this "signal"?

Can one or both of the quarters be buried and if so how
deep can they be buried and you can still detect the
"signal"?

Is there a signal between my stash of silver coins and
the silver coins my neighbor across the street has?

Does the silver in the roll of silver solder in my garage
send signals to other silver?

If there is only one silver coin in a area of say ten miles
is the silver coin sending a signal? If not, how does
one silver coin know when another silver coin comes
within the proper distance?

What exactly is the silver coin or coins doing to send
this signal?

Will you answer any of these questions or will you
insult me?

Will art butt in and insult me before you answer or
insult me?

 

[fenixdigger]

Well hat's off Prong. That's seriously some of the best questions I have seen on here. And they're legit.

A long time ago I posted a link to a study done on this from some polytech type collage. I don't remember it or where I posted it
or I would put it back.

Since you can't see the "line" I'm going by info from others and what has happened in the field. The study explained what we have been seeing for years and had to guess at the reason. This caused us to use common words to describe things that are confusing to others that could not relate to the "actions" we were seeing.

Apparently on a subatomic level, similar materials create a harmonic resonance between them due to their "signature" frequency.

I've never seen a study on the depth or range this can go. Maybe since this is subatomic, the "effect" can pass through through
other atoms with no resistance. Maybe other atoms enhance this as it passes through them.

Just as walking over water pipes with a L Rod causes an effect this "force" does the same thing. The signal gen. is suppose to enhance this force?? When I turn on the mfd, you cannot pick up the pipes. If I set it for iron you can.

One of the biggest pain in the a$$ things is a dang telephone junction box. It has gold contacts with electricity running through it. A hell of a signal from it. Herein lies the main problem facing LRL users. If all of this is correct, it means that the perfect signal is so precise that hitting it exactly is almost an accident. When we produce our "signal" we are usually hitting other elements that are close to the intended target.

Hardened steel with electrolysis is very close to gold. Anything with a gold molecule will show up. This is why we have so many misses. Combine this with some very strange effects that the earth seems to have about a man made metal being buried for
many years, and it starts getting real complicated.

Thanks for a real question.

 

[fenixdigger]

I missed some of your questions. I was so shocked at a question that made sense, I freaked out a little.

You asked about the signal. I don't think it's a signal, we just call it that. No one has ever given it an official name. If you take a piece of paper and put say 5 dots spread out on it, draw a line from each dot to all the other dots. That's what we find with the rods. They are like the water pipes. You follow one and hit a crossing, think it's the target and end up with empty hole syndrome.

Yes the silver will have some sort of connection to each other. The link I had, explained this really good.

As far as distance, I have locked a target at over 20 miles. The bionic 01 had 3 of the 4 signals I did and Frank said it was only good for 8 miles. I checked the 4th one on the way home and it took 20 miles for it to move past me. I don't know what it was as I was not on a hunt, but we both locked the same 3 and I was using a gold sample.

It has not been about if we can find a target for a long time. The procedure to locate has been the bear. You have to flag every response, move over 10 ft, circle it and flag every response. Once you get enough flags out, a pattern will emerge that you can make sense out of.

As far as depth, it's best to put a piece of cement on top of your sample. If you leave it on top, you will hit shallow targets first.
Sounds crazy, and it took hard work to convince me it would make a difference. (3 days of intense experimenting)

You see, I don't just accept what I hear. I'm going out in the yard and wear it out. It does not matter if something is true or not.
If I can't do it, no matter what kind of "proof", it's false for me.

IF you want to see if this is the truth, put a silver quarter down and walk around it slowly with an L rod. Hold one in your other hand to boost the effect. Keep the rod on the side the quarter is on. Simple

 

[aarthrj3811]

Sources? References? There was no link given.

Please validate your claim, or include a disclaimer that this is strictly your opinion

Hey LT..You have them confused again….Looks like they do not understand the foreign language you speak..Can you repeat that in their language called Psycho Babble
../.Art

 

[fenixdigger]

Gee Art, there is no translation, but I'll try.

Source--- Outside in the field

References----See pictures of finds and holes previously posted on your own. Not your momma.

Links----Previously posted. Check your memory banks for "loose connections" Find on you own, still not your momma.

That's the best I can do. I'm not going to include the hateful comments or insults like them.

 

[aarthrj3811]

~SWR~

I love it when you make a lier out of yourself...in your own post!

Sorry to have to asks you this but as an honest Treasure hunt I have to.
How does it feel to be abandoned by your fellow Randi Clans men ? Is this a sign that they no longer can stand all your mistakes ?..May be you should read the Skeptics bible so you could at least understand the rules you have to follow..Art

 

[fenixdigger]

Art, did precious really post that? He called someone a "liar"? No, Say it ain't so.

Guess he forgot that he asked the same questions, and that time I furnished pictures and 2 links, which he said he couldn't open one of them.

Well maybe the meds drift a little.


Don't lose your mind-It's all fine SHO-NUFF It'll set you free

 

[EE THr]

Art, did precious really post that? He called someone a "liar"? No, Say it ain't so.

Guess he forgot that he asked the same questions, and that time I furnished pictures and 2 links, which he said he couldn't open one of them.

Well maybe the meds drift a little.


Don't lose your mind-It's all fine SHO-NUFF It'll set you free

SNOW-NUFF---

Aren't you the one who was complaining about people being off-topic? People are not the topic.

And, by the way, what do dowsing experiments have to do with the Section on LRLs?

You should practice what you preach.





Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[pronghorn]

Fenix, you apparently misunderstood my questions.
They were in reference to the sho nuff test, I was
not referring to LRL's in anyway, just the bent coat
hanger L rods and how they pick up your so-called
"signals". Too bad you didn't address each question
as there are follow up questions whose answers all
lead to the same conclusion, it is only you the holder
of the rod, be it in an lrl or not, it is only you making
it point, the signal is from your brain to your hand.

I have done my share of what is called dowsing.
I was introduced to it in my early teens and it
didn't take me long to recognise what was happening.
It is simply the ideomotor response and the users
feelings moving the rod or rods. This is obvious and
is very simply proven with unknown targets and
double blind testing.

So when I state that I can dowse,
what I mean is I can make the L rod turn
at a target or perceived target simply with slight
very subtle almost imperceptible hand manipulation.
It is my opinion that every dowser is simply doing
the same thing, consciously or otherwise.
If you can't see that, you are fooling yourself,
you are not the critical thinker you make out to be.

Your tests where "you" set the targets are meaningless,
have a nonbeliever place your targets and another
observe your tests in double blind fashion
and you will see what we are talking about.

And yes you insulted SWR, then stated that you
wouldn't. Why not just answer his request for
references or state that you cannot provide them.
Man up!

didn't take you long to get right back into the full insult mode
did it? but hey, art agrees with you so what the*&#% right

 

[aarthrj3811]

~LT~

You see, I don't just accept what I hear. I'm going out in the yard and wear it out. It does not matter if something is true or not.
If I can't do it, no matter what kind of "proof", it's false for me.

SNOW-NUFF---

 

[EE THr]

~LT~

You see, I don't just accept what I hear. I'm going out in the yard and wear it out. It does not matter if something is true or not.
If I can't do it, no matter what kind of "proof", it's false for me.

SNOW-NUFF---

#22.





Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[fenixdigger]

Prong;

I see, he calls me a liar and I insulted him. Last time he asked these questions I answered them. Not doing it again.

You asked a good question by accident I guess. Let me do this real slow. When you dowse you are using a mental or spiritual
(whatever you want to call it) to locate.

A LRL uses a signal. (Lets call it an imitator) This can be a MFD, a signal generator, a sample, or anything that simulates the target.

I put this here as it is cheap to try, shows the basic ideas.

Let me be real clear on this,,, I'm not here to keep an argument going for the amusement of someone that can't and won't try to find the truth. Do you think SWR really gives a rat's a$$ about any of the answers? How about EE? Do you see them trying to work out a solution to anything? Give me a break!!! I'm wondering if you really do.

 

[EE THr]

How about EE? Do you see them trying to work out a solution to anything? Give me a break!!! I'm wondering if you really do.

fenix brothers---

See, this is the problem when each of you read different parts of the Section. I end up having to repeat myself several times.

OK, tell your "buddies" there in your shop: Who started the topic, "Maybe We Can Agree?"

Or are you having another blonde moment?


Duh...Oh Yeah!



In the mean time, you can work out a solution to getting over to Carl's and prove the junk you are pushing.



Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[fenixdigger]

Going to go slow again. Guys I have you on ignore . Now , I'm not going to reply , even when

someone quotes you. You say nothing worth hearing, and don't understand enough

to try to deal with.