ivan salis
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finnish 7.62 x 53 /4 R --M 91 /30 "tikka' T in triangle within a circle
i understand that the T in the triangle with a circle was not used before 1938 for "tikka" barrel markings --it also has the letter C on it meaning it a "C" standard bore of .3087 * very tight -- there were 3 classes A , B , and C with C the tightest bore of the 3 classes -- if the gun was "in use " in say 1939 it would have been used when finland was fighting russia on her on in the "winter war" nov 30, 1939 to march 13th ,1940 * (note germany and russia were allies at that time) -- but when hilter "flipped' and attacked russia in on june 22 1941-- finland had allied with nazi germany to kill russians (commies) from june 25th, 1941 to sept , 19th , 1944 in " the continuation war" * on the russians --after they made peace with the russians on sept 19th , 1944 the finnish people later on used these rifles from sept 19th, 1944 until april of 1945 (the wars end) to kill nazi's after finland cut a deal with the russians to drive out the nazis from finland (the lapland war *)
the tiny country of finland had by very carefully playing "politics" with the two major powers ( germany and russia) and by the fierce fighting put up by their own forces managed to stay free and indepedant and democratic during the war and afterwards.
it is not often one gets a chance to buy a rifle that was used on both of americas"great historic enemys" --nazi germany and commie russia -- these bolt action rifles are often known to be great shooters and are similar in power to a .308 or 30/06 -- i saw this above one for $112 out the door in my local pawn shop -- just waiting on my tax refund to come in to snap it up -- wife gave the ok to get her.
being this gun was shipped in a crate of mostly "russian" guns -- i think it might have been a "captured" finnish made rifle taken from a finnish soldier by russian troops either in the 1939 - 1940 winter war -- or the continuation war of 1941 to 1944 * and later on post war stored in russian armory stockplies * -- rare for a captured rifle not to have it markings "messed up" but that seems to have been the case as the marking were 100% intact still --so either there was a single "captured" finnish rifle mixed in with a batch of russians (from a russian armory) or a whole lot of "captured" russians mixed in with a "single" finnish rifle from a finnish armory.
i understand that the T in the triangle with a circle was not used before 1938 for "tikka" barrel markings --it also has the letter C on it meaning it a "C" standard bore of .3087 * very tight -- there were 3 classes A , B , and C with C the tightest bore of the 3 classes -- if the gun was "in use " in say 1939 it would have been used when finland was fighting russia on her on in the "winter war" nov 30, 1939 to march 13th ,1940 * (note germany and russia were allies at that time) -- but when hilter "flipped' and attacked russia in on june 22 1941-- finland had allied with nazi germany to kill russians (commies) from june 25th, 1941 to sept , 19th , 1944 in " the continuation war" * on the russians --after they made peace with the russians on sept 19th , 1944 the finnish people later on used these rifles from sept 19th, 1944 until april of 1945 (the wars end) to kill nazi's after finland cut a deal with the russians to drive out the nazis from finland (the lapland war *)
the tiny country of finland had by very carefully playing "politics" with the two major powers ( germany and russia) and by the fierce fighting put up by their own forces managed to stay free and indepedant and democratic during the war and afterwards.
it is not often one gets a chance to buy a rifle that was used on both of americas"great historic enemys" --nazi germany and commie russia -- these bolt action rifles are often known to be great shooters and are similar in power to a .308 or 30/06 -- i saw this above one for $112 out the door in my local pawn shop -- just waiting on my tax refund to come in to snap it up -- wife gave the ok to get her.
being this gun was shipped in a crate of mostly "russian" guns -- i think it might have been a "captured" finnish made rifle taken from a finnish soldier by russian troops either in the 1939 - 1940 winter war -- or the continuation war of 1941 to 1944 * and later on post war stored in russian armory stockplies * -- rare for a captured rifle not to have it markings "messed up" but that seems to have been the case as the marking were 100% intact still --so either there was a single "captured" finnish rifle mixed in with a batch of russians (from a russian armory) or a whole lot of "captured" russians mixed in with a "single" finnish rifle from a finnish armory.
RUN.. dont walk to that pawn shop and grab that rifle before anyone else does!!!!
I feel like I been horsewhipped.
