FIRST CW FINDS, NEED ID HELP!

[Coastie59]

Hello all, been hunting a spot I stumbled onto in NC. It's an old home site, been researching since I'm a noob at finding CW relics, but would love some help from you experienced CW hunters. The last pic is made from brass and has wood inside, like a umbrella, tent pole, flag pole, have no idea. Thx in advance for any help, GL and HH to all.

 

[Coastie59]

More pics!

 

[jamesbibb]

So what you have here is a Confederate Block I button, a Union GS eagle button, loooks like 1 of a bunch of different bullets-confederate and Union. The brass peice is a hanger also from the CW. Seems like quite the array of relics to have come from a homesite. all with different types of patina-bullets and buttons.

Congrats on some great finds...
They are all good peices of history

 

[Hutch911]

Great bunch of CW finds. Take your time go slow my be a plate or two hiding in there!

 

[Getty]

Totally AWESOME recoveries there! the top left of 1st pic i think is a period watch winder.WTG!!!!!!!

 

[olekyground]

Nice Infantry button!! GOOD ONES

 

[Steve in Michigan]

That last pic you mentioned, could it deal something with a Flag? I see like a pin that goes in the brass to hold the wood on the top right side of it. Just a guess. Nice job!

Your Friend,

Steve in Michigan

 

[KyFreeBird]

 

[Coastie59]

Thx Steve, there was a pin on the other side also, but missing, the one end is threaded.

 

[BosnMate]

The brass thing with the threads looks like a piece of fishing pole. I found one just like it out here in Oregon, and that's what I figured it was.

 

[creskol]

Nice bunch of goodies! Strange how the "Eagle" button was eaten up by ground action while the "Block I' doesn't look like it was affected by ground action at all.

 

[PEles]

Nice finds, is that Waterbury back mark you posted on the back of your I button? If so I hate to break it to you but that button's a reproduction' The buttons front looks to be English made but the back mark? Waterbury never made buttons like that for the confederates.Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if that's what's on the back of your I button it's pretty much worthless.

LP

 

[Coastie59]

Yea, that is the backmark of the I button, did think it was in to good of shape when dug. Was also hopeing to know what each bullet is, thx.

 

[birdman]

Wow,you found an awesome site to hunt. Congrats!

 

[rjs123]

Top left brass piece is from an Enfield Musket. The hook to the right is a knapsack hook. As soon as I saw that back mark I was thinking the same thing as the previous poster. Repro button. Was there a living history event or reenactment in the area?

The first bullet pictured by itself is a Type III Willams Cleaner Bullet. It is missing the plunger and disk. The last bullet pictured by itself looks like a pistol bullet that was using as a nipple protector.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

The list below uses your "group shot" photo for reference. For example, "row 3, item 2" and when possible, I'll include a single-item photo's filename, such as "004.jpg".

Row 1, item 1: broken-off pocketwatch winding key.
Row 1, item 2: .44-caliber pistol-ball, surrounded in the photo by .31-caiber buckshot balls. (005.jpg)
Row 1, item 3: yankee soldier's knapsack-hook, made of brass.
Row 1, item 4: yankee enlisted-man's "eagle button." (002.jpg)

Row 2, item 1: large-size brass rivet, for holding two thick pieces of leather together - this one is probably from a cavalryman's sword-belt, but may be from some other type of soldier's leather equipment.
Row 2, item 2: yankee .58-caliber "Williams Bore-cleaner" Type 3 bullet, missing the "thumbtack" from its base (006.jpg)
Row 2, item 3: yankee .58-caliber Minie-ball, for Springfield Rifle. (007.jpg)
Row 2, item 4, yankee .52-caliber Sharps Carbine bullet. (008.jpg)
Row 2, item 5: yankee .44-caliber Bartholow bullet, for revolver. (009.jpg)
Row 2, item 6: Reproduction of CS Infantry button (004.jpg) -- backmark saying "Waterbury Co.'s Conn." (004.jpg) dates ONLY from the World War Two era to 2000. To verify that info, read the Waterbury Companies history at http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=1

Row 3, item 1: small-size brass rivet, used to hold two pieces of leather together -- may be from a soldier's cartridge-box, or some other leather equipment
Row 3, item 2: "D-ring" buckle, missing its tongue, used on many types of leather straps -- no way to know for certain whether it is a Military or Civilian item
Row 3, item 3: yankee .44-caliber revolver bullet -- very similar to .44 Colt Dragoon Revolver bullet but not quite an exact match. (010.jpg)
Row 3, item 4: yankee .36-caliber Colt Revolver bullet. (011.jpg)
Row 3, item 5: civil war era revolver bullet, apparently made into a nipple-protector by a soldier -- the big circular imprint on it appears to match the cup-end of a rifle lockplate-hammer. (012.jpg)

Because most of these items are associated with yankee cavalry (not infantry), it's highly likely that that's who camped at the house-site you're digging at.

 

[rjs123]

Thanks CG. I should have looked closer. Item one "looks" like a piece off an Enfiled but clearly is not.

 

[Coastie59]

Thank you very much Cannonballguy, thats what I was looking for.....been md'ing for about 6mo's now and these are my first CW finds...trying to research and learn more about it. Again thanks to all!

 

[metalev4]

Congrats on your first CW relics. Seems like a good spot, hunt it slowly.
-Ev

 

[civilman1]

Good call CBG......Row 2, item 6: Reproduction of CS Infantry button (004.jpg) -- backmark saying "Waterbury Co.'s Conn." (004.jpg) dates ONLY from the World War Two era to 2000. To verify that info, read the Waterbury Companies history at http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=1

I found a repro from the 145th yr. at Antietam........Had me going Great recovery's