Charlie P. (NY)
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- Detector(s) used
- Minelab Musketeer Advantage Pro w/8" & 10" DD coils/Fisher F75se(Upgraded to LTD2) w/11" DD, 6.5" concentric & 9.5" NEL Sharpshooter DD coils/Sunray FX-1 Probe & F-Point/Black Widows/Rattler headphone
- Primary Interest:
- Metal Detecting
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Came home tonight and found a package waiting. Bouncing baby F-75 on the doorstep. A little lightly constructed compared to my Musketeer, but noticably lighter and MUCH better balanced. The shaft has a little side play, but the fore & aft tip of the coil is much tighter. Beefier knob arrangement.
I took her out to my test garden and, on the default settings, did have trouble picking up both the 12" flat and 12" on edge clad quarters in my bed. It's been dry and I couldn't pick them up with my Minelab, either. In pinpoint mode it read 12" on the nose and pinpointed right smack on the plastic golf tees I use as markers. I did not experience the bothersome noises some complain of - and I was within 30 feet of powerlines. I also had the sensitivity set at 20. Cranking it up to 55 brought signals from the quarters, but also false signals. With the display it is easy to determine a good signal from a false.
I then wandered the yard and brushlot just to get a feel (didn't even bring a trowel). I found it very easy to make adjustments. One button to push, one knob to turn (the on/off/volume knob is at your elbow). I played around in all metal and had LOTS of hits from the roofing nails & c. around the house. The discrimination mode gave not a peep in those spots. Nice. I also note that the shotshell base in my test garden read "25" in every direction and sensitivity setting I tried. That is a blessing as in some spots I hunt they are the most common trash. Found the first coin I have turned in the year I've been here - a 1994D Roosevelt dime near the front door among the roofing nails. Display read "80" in all directions and the pinpoint minimum depth was 5, just flipping to 4 briefly. I found it at 4" in the 2" x 2" wide hole I struck with my Lesche (which I had to get out of the car just to see what this "high" signal was). Close enough.
I'm going to try the park tomorrow at lunchtime and then I'll wring her out in earnest in my test bed and start logging signals and the dig results. Tonight was just a preliminary get-the-feel session. I'm very happy so far. I do note a lot of tones when swinging through brush/weeds in rough areas, but no more than my Minelab produces. LOTS of experimenting yet to be done with discrimination, notching, tones, sensitivity and modes. It may be weeks before I know enough about this detector to judge her. Tomorrow we'll see how she does "close-and-play" on clad at the park.
I also got a single (half a pair) DetectorPro Rattler headphone. Keeps one ear open for noises around you. Worked very well, especially after I realized the off-side pad is also adjustable. Wasn't too comfortable until I worked that out. I think this is going to become my pimary equipment even though my Black Widows are wonderful.
On a related side note: the F-Point pinpointer that I was neutral about is much nicer than I imagined. I kind of like it! I had read a bum review that the cap did not stay in place. I can fix that! I put the battery into the base by pressing it into the foam and it fits snugly between the little flanges that engage recesses in the handel. I was afraid I might break it trying to remove the end cap again for these images! It is TIGHT when the battery is placed this way. Seems to work fine, fits perfectly in a sleeve that was already in my carpenter's belt pouch. I would prefer a momentary switch instead of a combined twist on/off & sensitivity knob. But for free you won't hear me complaining. Worked well in my trial digs tonight.
I took her out to my test garden and, on the default settings, did have trouble picking up both the 12" flat and 12" on edge clad quarters in my bed. It's been dry and I couldn't pick them up with my Minelab, either. In pinpoint mode it read 12" on the nose and pinpointed right smack on the plastic golf tees I use as markers. I did not experience the bothersome noises some complain of - and I was within 30 feet of powerlines. I also had the sensitivity set at 20. Cranking it up to 55 brought signals from the quarters, but also false signals. With the display it is easy to determine a good signal from a false.
I then wandered the yard and brushlot just to get a feel (didn't even bring a trowel). I found it very easy to make adjustments. One button to push, one knob to turn (the on/off/volume knob is at your elbow). I played around in all metal and had LOTS of hits from the roofing nails & c. around the house. The discrimination mode gave not a peep in those spots. Nice. I also note that the shotshell base in my test garden read "25" in every direction and sensitivity setting I tried. That is a blessing as in some spots I hunt they are the most common trash. Found the first coin I have turned in the year I've been here - a 1994D Roosevelt dime near the front door among the roofing nails. Display read "80" in all directions and the pinpoint minimum depth was 5, just flipping to 4 briefly. I found it at 4" in the 2" x 2" wide hole I struck with my Lesche (which I had to get out of the car just to see what this "high" signal was). Close enough.
I'm going to try the park tomorrow at lunchtime and then I'll wring her out in earnest in my test bed and start logging signals and the dig results. Tonight was just a preliminary get-the-feel session. I'm very happy so far. I do note a lot of tones when swinging through brush/weeds in rough areas, but no more than my Minelab produces. LOTS of experimenting yet to be done with discrimination, notching, tones, sensitivity and modes. It may be weeks before I know enough about this detector to judge her. Tomorrow we'll see how she does "close-and-play" on clad at the park.
I also got a single (half a pair) DetectorPro Rattler headphone. Keeps one ear open for noises around you. Worked very well, especially after I realized the off-side pad is also adjustable. Wasn't too comfortable until I worked that out. I think this is going to become my pimary equipment even though my Black Widows are wonderful.
On a related side note: the F-Point pinpointer that I was neutral about is much nicer than I imagined. I kind of like it! I had read a bum review that the cap did not stay in place. I can fix that! I put the battery into the base by pressing it into the foam and it fits snugly between the little flanges that engage recesses in the handel. I was afraid I might break it trying to remove the end cap again for these images! It is TIGHT when the battery is placed this way. Seems to work fine, fits perfectly in a sleeve that was already in my carpenter's belt pouch. I would prefer a momentary switch instead of a combined twist on/off & sensitivity knob. But for free you won't hear me complaining. Worked well in my trial digs tonight.