Flounder The Finest Point I Ever Found

[Garscale]

I grubbed this point dubbed FLOUNDER many years ago . I could feel the edge sticking out of eroded hard pan clay under water. I gradually worked it out with my fingers. The more of it I could feel the more excited I got. I wasnt disappointed when I brought it up.

There has been much discussion as to type. It is crazy thin with diving flakes that actually make the center of the blade thinner than the edges. The stem is fluted and ground. If I found just the stem I might think it was a broken folsom.

TSU has studied the point and some believe it is a paleo point from Central America or South America. The material has little starburst in it very much resembling a material from Chili.

I dont know what it is but I love it.

 

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[Garscale]

If I remember right, Joshuaream was involved in the discussion and I think TSU had some of his South American artifacts there.

This is a subject I know very little about and can only relay what I'm told. Dr Collins felt it was a type carbon dated at around 14,500 yrs bp. Joshuaream may be able to shed more light. I do know there is not total agreement that that is what I found. I know I like it though.

 

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[Molewacker]

Sorry, IMHO that is a speckle back HALIBUT!

Wow, belated congrats because it is deserved 10x over.

 

[Garscale]

Sorry, IMHO that is a speckle back HALIBUT!

Wow, belated congrats because it is deserved 10x over.

I like halibut.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

If you read the post above yours you will see I sold it for 2500 and bought it back for 10,000. I certainly wouldnt take that for it now.

I read that part. I get it though.

Your artifact if something so special I wouldn’t even dream of finding something like that anywhere in my area of Northern California.

 

[Garscale]

I read that part. I get it though.

Your artifact if something so special I wouldn’t even dream of finding something like that anywhere in my area of Northern California.

There are some amazing artifacts in the great basin. It's out there. The laws out your way are kinda screwy though.

 

[old digger]

Far-Out! That is beautiful!

 

[kentucky Quinn]

That one is the work of a master. Holy smoke! Thanks for sharing man

 

[Fat]

...Have you had any casts made or have you thought about. That would be a great one to have.

 

[Garscale]

...Have you had any casts made or have you thought about. That would be a great one to have.

Yes it was cast by Stonehenge shortly after Bill bought it. They called it a Delhi then. I think they are still available

 

[outlaws15]

Wow, that is so cool and it found its way back home and only dogs and cats get the credit for doing that.

 

[Relicgrubber]

Very nice artifact!

What were the other 4 artifacts in the cache?

 

[Garscale]

Very nice artifact!

What were the other 4 artifacts in the cache?

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Another guy found a cache on the same site a year earlier. I have since seen them and they are in no way related . They are pogos or Gary knives.

 

[Relicgrubber]

Oh. The line in Sterling's description “It was found in a washout in a creek and was part of a cache of 5 blades” is very much misleading then.

 

[pepperj]

It's certainly front cover material.

You stated it stirs something inside you-geez just staring at the picture it does that-and I don't even own it. I can't imagine the feeling you get.
Congrats on the recovery and getting it back.

 

[Garscale]

Oh. The line in Sterling's description “It was found in a washout in a creek and was part of a cache of 5 blades” is very much misleading then.

Yes.... that and calling it a Delhi. He did not get that from me.

 

[Garscale]

Relicgrubber you have been around Texas artifacts for many years. Are you familiar with any Texas chert that has those little fossil plant dots in it like that?

 

[joshuaream]

Sorry I've been burning the candle at both ends with work, remodeling a house we bought, and moving back home from Asia to Florida.

It's a really interesting point. I've been a bit out of the loop on cutting edge research, but it looks a lot like some of the odd big paleo points down in South America. Here are a couple of pictures, not exactly identical, but some similar traits.

All of the interested in the South American "fishtail" points has come from some of the odd pre-Clovis stuff from the Gault site. Scroll down through this link and you'll see two of the bases that are absolutely pre-Clovis that really threw people for a loop. I gave them a couple of pieces from Venezuela that were fluted fishtails (Dr Waters glossed over what I think is my rather cool display of Clovisoid tech and zeroed in on a couple of odd pieces. Dr Collins like the Clovisoid stuff.)

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[Mortenson]

Beautiful artifact! Hard to fathom. Glad you got it back.

 

[Army of 1]

Awesome piece , those early Americans had some unbelievable skills .

 

[Relicgrubber]

Relicgrubber you have been around Texas artifacts for many years. Are you familiar with any Texas chert that has those little fossil plant dots in it like that?

Steve, I have a few points with the characteristics you mentioned. I always figured it was a type of algae that formed on them long before they were hidden between the layers of time and became solidified.