hey thanks guys.im working on the pics,can not seem to make them smaller,10 mega camera that i busted the lcd on, just hope i get a good one while taking it.thought it would be a good ideal to take it with me on my hunts till it fell out of my pocket in a cave i was checking out.one guy said the one on the left could be a plainview,i have know ideal but really want to learn as these are the first ive ever found,have a couple more ill post also.i needed something to inspire me.as all there is ,is bad news going on around everwhere.and a big plus is that the kids show some interest in it,son stopped playing his 360 to check em out.jamey