hey thanks tn mountain,ill go look around duck river planning my attack already.was telling a friend about it and he told me he had a friend that owns a farm on duck river.i grew up on the st.clair river,never thought about looking for them,though i wish i would have.i have a overstreet book now and waiting on a litchics book now that a guy on here said was a good one.flea for short they call em,but i think he converted to muslim now.
would also like to thank everyone else who has commented,muddy feet,southern girl,dollar zero,pickaway and everyone else i missed.
jamey