George Washington Inaugural Button--Eagle Type BUT.."Preliminary ID" Update

[hogge]

George Washington Inaugural Button--Eagle Type BUT.."Preliminary ID" Update

SOMEONE RUINED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAARRRRGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe it. My friend Roz and I took about a 3 mile hike in the woods and ended up near....what we call......."The Button Field". We've pulled about 50 buttons out of this particular field. When I pulled this thing out....boy was it heavy. Heaviest button I ever dug. The first thing I noticed was the crest. I told Roz I thought it was a GW Inaugural but it was too heavily filled with crud to positively ID. The orange pic shows the top of the crest and the head. The blue pic shows the tail feathers at 6 o'clock and to the right you can see the left leg that holds the arrows. It's in EXTREMELY rough shape but it IS a GW Inaugural. Doubt I'll be able to get the variety due to condition. Going to get a hold of my friend, Golden 1, to see if he can take better pics with a digital camera, as it may show better detail than my CRAP scanner! I guess I'm in the GWI Button club! Basically my #2 DREAM FIND. #1 would be a piece of Massachusetts Silver! I will post better pics when I get them. Does anyone think I can take this to a jeweler and have it heated, and bent upright without too much damage? I'll bet I could get better detail then. Is this a wise thing to do? Given condition, I don't think I have much to lose. Hogge

 

[Kieth-Tx]

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Yep...awesome find! Only two people would I send this to....Robert McDaniel Is #1 and Leonard Short is #2! WTG!!!

 

[hogge]

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Smart thing to do, I have seen his work and he does perform miracles and on relics in much worst shape than your button. It will be a good investment I am sure, whether you sell it or not.

Don

I have examined the bend very closely, under magnification. There seems to be almost no stressing,(or stress cracks), in the bend. There are some tiny ones, but nothing major. Hard to believe, being underground for that long. Should come out pretty good. Of course, you never know til he heats it up. Hoping for the best.

 

[Golden1]

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Congrats on a GREAT find Sherm

So when are we going back to the button field

G1

 

[Woodland Detectors]

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I don't usually answer to the todays finds post but, I have to congratulate you on a wonderful button and amazing piece of history. Well done.... mike

 

[xlt nh]

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Bent, twisted, doesn't matter....IT'S A GW!!! AWESOME FIND!!!!

HH, Hank 8)

 

[johnnyi]

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"Bent, twisted, doesn't matter....IT'S A GW!!! AWESOME FIND!!!! "

You got that right xlt!! It is awesome in any condition! This thing didn't get bent by a plow, somebody intentionally bent it this way long ago, or it woudn't have that extra bend on the edge. That's some history right there. Maybe they didn't like old G.W.? Maybe it was one of those bent button charms that people made long ago? Maybe it was bent around a piece of leather to al;ways be carried? It wil be a treasure bent or unbent. Personally I think we get drawn into the "condition" angle too much on these things, treating them like coins or stamps, when in fact this is a unique (is uniquer a word? ) a uniquer button that speaks! (we just don't know quite what it's saying! )

 

[{Sentinel}]

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Terrrific find! Not much that I can say that hasn't been said already except that I am glad that you've decided to have it restored. It will give that button the attention that it deserves and will be an exceptional piece to your collection

 

[Deno]

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Hogge, you dog, you are always finding something nice. Congrats.

 

[Iron Patch]

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Yep, you don't know whether to laugh or cry at first, but once it sinks in you gotta be pretty happy to have dug something like that. I think R. McD. will do a good job on it.

 

[gemee]

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Be sure and show as the "after" photo of this amazing find.

 

[NGE]

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Awesome find! Just think of what may have happened to the person that was wearing it He may have gotten slashed by a sword and that little old button saved his life..............NGE

 

[cheffer]

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Hogge,
Shame that it's messed up, but still what a great find! I've been telling my brother there are GWs here in the Berkshires scattered about, only a matter of time before someone finds one. Never know, there may be more out in your button field.
Congratulations,
Steve

 

[hogge]

Re: George Washington Inaugural Button--Eagle Type BUT.."Preliminary ID" Update

Ok, I have a preliminary ID on my button. Picking out some of the tiniest details I noticed a peculiar thing. The talon holding the arrows is facing open. The only Eagle showing the talon, holding the arrows open is "Cobb# 17i". The rarity is listed as common with 55 examples known. Once again, only a preliminary ID but I'm 99% certain. Thanks for lookin'. Hogge P.S. Another thing I forgot to mention in my original post was the readout this target gave me on my Prism IV. This button came up as "PULLTAB", YES----"PULLTAB"! 4-6 inches was the depth. I'm thinking that, because we haven't had much rain in the last couple of weeks, the signal, although strong and centered, gave this readout on my LCD. Thought that was quite odd. Usually a button will come up as "Bottle Cap" on my display. Just thought it was interesting to mention as the button is brass.

 

[NGE]

Re: George Washington Inaugural Button--Eagle Type BUT.."Preliminary ID" Update

Hogge because it had been so dry here in Michigan, my signal readings in digital were way off also. I would get solid silver hit at 6 inches, only to find a copper coin at 3 inches. So now that we've had 2 days of rain and more on the way, everything ought to be back to normal........NGE

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: George Washington Inaugural Button--Eagle Type BUT.."Preliminary ID" Update

Ok, I have a preliminary ID on my button. Picking out some of the tiniest details I noticed a peculiar thing. The talon holding the arrows is facing open. The only Eagle showing the talon, holding the arrows open is "Cobb# 17i". The rarity is listed as common with 55 examples known. Once again, only a preliminary ID but I'm 99% certain. Thanks for lookin'. Hogge P.S. Another thing I forgot to mention in my original post was the readout this target gave me on my Prism IV. This button came up as "PULLTAB", YES----"PULLTAB"! 4-6 inches was the depth. I'm thinking that, because we haven't had much rain in the last couple of weeks, the signal, although strong and centered, gave this readout on my LCD. Thought that was quite odd. Usually a button will come up as "Bottle Cap" on my display. Just thought it was interesting to mention as the button is brass.

Dude, a real button digger never looks at the screen!

 

[Derek752]

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Hey Hogge a hearty congrats and welcome to the G.W. Inaugural club

First things first : Ya gotta get back to that field and dig every last signal ! Dont forget they were normally wore in even numbers 4 - 6 buttons on a ribbon tied at both ends therefore where theres one good chances there maybe more !!!

Odds are in your favor you may still dig a non-bent GW in that field

I'd be back on that field 24/7 till there were no targets left !

Bums me out that sweet find of a button is bent but HEY it still counts as a G.W.I. !!

WTG !!!!!!!!

D.

 

[hogge]

Re: George Washington Inaugural Button--Eagle Type BUT.."Preliminary ID" Update

Ok, I have a preliminary ID on my button. Picking out some of the tiniest details I noticed a peculiar thing. The talon holding the arrows is facing open. The only Eagle showing the talon, holding the arrows open is "Cobb# 17i". The rarity is listed as common with 55 examples known. Once again, only a preliminary ID but I'm 99% certain. Thanks for lookin'. Hogge P.S. Another thing I forgot to mention in my original post was the readout this target gave me on my Prism IV. This button came up as "PULLTAB", YES----"PULLTAB"! 4-6 inches was the depth. I'm thinking that, because we haven't had much rain in the last couple of weeks, the signal, although strong and centered, gave this readout on my LCD. Thought that was quite odd. Usually a button will come up as "Bottle Cap" on my display. Just thought it was interesting to mention as the button is brass.

Dude, a real button digger never looks at the screen!

I can ALWAYS count on I.P. for a good "Busting of the B-LL$"

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: George Washington Inaugural Button--Eagle Type BUT.."Preliminary ID" Update

Ok, I have a preliminary ID on my button. Picking out some of the tiniest details I noticed a peculiar thing. The talon holding the arrows is facing open. The only Eagle showing the talon, holding the arrows open is "Cobb# 17i". The rarity is listed as common with 55 examples known. Once again, only a preliminary ID but I'm 99% certain. Thanks for lookin'. Hogge P.S. Another thing I forgot to mention in my original post was the readout this target gave me on my Prism IV. This button came up as "PULLTAB", YES----"PULLTAB"! 4-6 inches was the depth. I'm thinking that, because we haven't had much rain in the last couple of weeks, the signal, although strong and centered, gave this readout on my LCD. Thought that was quite odd. Usually a button will come up as "Bottle Cap" on my display. Just thought it was interesting to mention as the button is brass.

Dude, a real button digger never looks at the screen!

I can ALWAYS count on I.P. for a good "Busting of the B-LL$"

Well it just might find you that really masked GW that's left at the site!

 

[Kyle PA]

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Hogge, with all of these killer relics and coins you've been digging over the past year or two, I think it is time to invest in a nice camera. A great picture adds to an already great find.

There is a $129.99 digital camera being sold at K-Mart: http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_020W678422110001P?mv=rr My mom bought one a few months ago and, after taking some close-ups of my coins, I actually thought it took better pics than mine.

I'm looking forward to the "after" shots of the GW.

 

[Golden1]

Re: George Washington Inaugural Button--Eagle Type BUT.."Preliminary ID" Update

Ok, I have a preliminary ID on my button. Picking out some of the tiniest details I noticed a peculiar thing. The talon holding the arrows is facing open. The only Eagle showing the talon, holding the arrows open is "Cobb# 17i". The rarity is listed as common with 55 examples known. Once again, only a preliminary ID but I'm 99% certain. Thanks for lookin'. Hogge P.S. Another thing I forgot to mention in my original post was the readout this target gave me on my Prism IV. This button came up as "PULLTAB", YES----"PULLTAB"! 4-6 inches was the depth. I'm thinking that, because we haven't had much rain in the last couple of weeks, the signal, although strong and centered, gave this readout on my LCD. Thought that was quite odd. Usually a button will come up as "Bottle Cap" on my display. Just thought it was interesting to mention as the button is brass.

Dude, a real button digger never looks at the screen!

Iron Patch said that right!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dig it all sort it later

G1