Georgia find

[Jcksnghst]

Please help:

This object, in my humble opinion, has been molten and at some point sent airborne until it landed on an early bird-like creature. This occurs to me because of the flame-like pattern on its top and the impressions in its bottom. To my mind's eye it appears as if the feather like impressions include scales that appear as the uniform but not quite round impressions seen in some of the close-up photos made with a magnifying app.

This object can be subjected to a propane torch and it does not retain heat very much at all. The length of time it has been placed under such heat would burn the hand if it were any other metal yet this object barely feels warmed.

The tests were performed at the Jewelry Exchange in Dalton, Georgia by the owner of said jewelry store with him offering eighty-five hundred dollars on the spot stating that he wanted it more for the rarity of the object than the 117 grams +/- of the gold makes up the majority of material present. The owner subsequently called day after day until his offer was in excess of twelve thousand five hundred dollars whereas he was told that the object was no longer available and to please stop calling trying to buy it.

I feel by now I will have either lost your attention entirely or I have successfully satisfied your curiosity as to whether I'm legit in what I am proposing that this object in my possession may actually be.

Again, I want to thank you for any considerations and I beg of you if you do not believe what I am proposing this object may be that you will at least share this conversation and the photos to others that you may deem helpful in identifying or disproving what I say or that may otherwise be in need if a good laugh.

 

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[Jcksnghst]

Also all those elements melt quite easily ruby at 3400 fahrenheit and the other even lower melting point. A small propane crucible can produce those temperatures with a little bit of effort. I've melted sand plenty of times in one with similar melting points. So a few things don't add up. Not trying to be rude but I just happen to know some things that are off.

But why on this earth would someone do that?
And I thank you, fr, for your time and considerations. It's very much a baffling puzzle..

 

[crashbandicoot]

This is not a derogatory remark.In all seriousness,I,d run not walk to that store and collect my 12,500.00

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

Looks to be copper that was poured into a sand cast.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Even if it was solid gold, at today's price of $56.34 a gram x 114 grams comes out to $6,422.76. Why was the $12,500 offered for it?

Why I would have been running,not walking to collect the 12,500.00.

 

[crashbandicoot]

I do not think your abject is corundum. But it is a conundrum!

And a paradox,an enigma and a mystery too!

 

[traveller777]

I wish it were copper... believe it or not everything I wrote is true; the guy at the jewelry exchange in Dalton, Georgia said that man couldn't produce heat enough to create it (I beg to differ considering nuclear), that it had two kinds of gold (whatever that means), silver, and Ruby gemstone (which is what blows my mind knowing the kind of heat that would mean). It was almost closing time and he offered $8,500 right then and there. He did not want it to leave his shop. He said that he wanted it for the rarity of it more than anything else. He kept calling everyday raising his offer until he was finally told it was not available. He kept raising his offer every time reaching $12,500.

This "rock" is a trip. It was literally found in a gravel driveway where some creek rock was brought in, on a truck I assume, and spread in said driveway. The rock was indistinguishable from the other creek rock in the driveway and was only discovered after seeing a tiny bit of shiny that had been exposed due to vehicle traffic running over the rock over time.
(it took a lot of time scrubbing it with scouring pads to remove this outer layer)

I do not know what to do.

I wish it were melted down copper.

I would take his $12,500 in a heartbeat. But that is me. If you want to further determine if it is copper, there are several tests I am sure. One is specific gravity. The guys that already answered you are pretty sharp. A few more folks on here are sharp on this stuff too. But specific gravity does not lie. Wait for somebody else to tell you their opinion or be proactive and do specific gravity. The procedure is all over the internet.

 

[boogeyman]

I would've taken the 1st offer no questions asked but if I was hesitant at the time and got a 2nd offer 4 thousand plus more than the original I would've taken that no questions asked. I would call him tomorrow.

Shop it around some other stores, unless you're down to E & your last smoke.

 

[boogeyman]

Are you saying that I have a bunch of stolen jewelry that I've melted down and brought here for what purpose?
How would I have gotten a fire that could melt corundum (ruby)?
I think several people here have the same state of mind that the good professor had.

NO NO NO!!! NOT SAYING YOU! SAYING you might've found somebody's loot. Think about it. Somebody melted a bunch of jewelry, and the ruby ended up in the melt like slag. You came along with a ton of luck & found it. No way am I implying you're crooked! Like I said, shop it around. Better yet, call around & see if there's a junk yard that has an XRF gun. A lot have them. Obviously it's a blob that was melted and poured into dirt to make an ingot. Think like a crook! You've got a pocketful of easily identifiable jewelry you can't pawn without getting busted, ehadya do? Melt it & sell it for scrap weight. Now for your offer... you do realize the pawn broker is only going to offer you less than 1/4 of it's value. Why? [INSERT PAWN BROKERS MANTRA " Well, I've got overhead.....) If a pawn broker doesn't weigh & test in front of you, pick your item up & walk! And NEVER let them take your item in the back to clean it so they can make an offer!!! It only takes 3 seconds to pop a diamond out of a setting & pop a CZ or glass in.

Again, sorry you thought I was implying you were crooked.

 

[boogeyman]

OK man. You don,t care about the value and it,s not for sale. You think it belongs in the Smithsonian but you wouldn,t donate it to them.I,m still confused,I still don,t have the slightest idea what it is.Please find out and tell us what it is.That,s all I ask,no disparagement meant,just a honest request.

Got POed, took her toys & went home. Post up asking for help then get POed when they don't get the answers they want. Oh well such is life............

 

[ARC]

even after all this time.... it still looks like copper.

:P

 

[crashbandicoot]

even after all this time.... it still looks like copper.

:P

Please get the damn thing confirmed or something.Or stop posting about it till you do.

 

[traveller777]

It looks like copper with some impurities from the home made smelting job that someone did. Possibly stole the copper and trying methods to disguise it to sell.
The other fuzzy pics posted looks like copper slag or some kind of slag. I have a friend that lives near Dalton. If you do not mind, i will help you by having him go by the Jewelry Exchange and see if he can help you get this sorted and closure. I have not asked him yet but I will. He may still be in Africa.
Easy test is to do specific gravity. I think this was requested some time back. That would settle it.

 

[pepperj]

I just was linked to this amazing post.
Read the amazing offer made by this company (but turned down)
I have to now wonder why-seeing it's almost double of what spot gold would going for.
There's so much skepticism in seeing something looks like something yet being told it's a rare bird.
So lets deal with the facts.
As it will be easy enough to contact the owner and ask him why the high value?
Ask the owner if this even took place?
Ask the owner if it was tested.
Ask the owner if he minds his place of business is being referred to in the post?

As a prior owner of a business that dealt with metal (semi precious)
If my company was referred to as this one was in offering a high value-border lining on harassment I would question the validity of such claims.

So lets just do the simple litmus test-contact the source of this amazing offer.

 

[Tpmetal]

take the money and run!

 

[Jcksnghst]

I still think it's copper more so now. Found in a creek explains the polished look from being turned in the water. Something copper was melted sat in the creek for years and polished up. Copper has that exact color. Sorry but I'm extremely skeptical of this. I don't know much but I do know my metal as I've smelted things down for years. I mean I could be wrong as I know I don't know it all but I'm just not seeing what you're seeing.

I understand and don't blame you. When I first seen it I, too, dismissed it believing it was melted down copper.

 

[Jcksnghst]

Also all those elements melt quite easily ruby at 3400 fahrenheit and the other even lower melting point. A small propane crucible can produce those temperatures with a little bit of effort. I've melted sand plenty of times in one with similar melting points. So a few things don't add up. Not trying to be rude but I just happen to know some things that are off.

I take no offense, I'm still in disbelief and shocked by it.

 

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[Jcksnghst]

..... that poor bird, do you think it was flying along minding its own business or just sitting and chirping on its nest? I know your not suppose to roller skate in a buffalo herd but why did the chicken cross the road?..

Someone said they pattern on the bottom may be from the material cooling, if closely examined a symetrical pattern can be seen across the entire bottom surface.
When I first turned the negative effect on it I thought chicken skin lol... Oh my .. Tbh, a feathered dinosaur raced across my overactive imagination haha...

 

[Tnmountains]

You said Dalton Ga. I know Dalton pretty well as you are not far. I have a friend that his business is casting gold jewelry.
I would seek out several jeweler's and have them look at it. If it is copper sell it to the guy that offered the most money.
Gold is easy to identify. Aslo you are not to far from the edge of the gold belt towards Dahlonega, Ga?

 

[crashbandicoot]

..... that poor bird, do you think it was flying along minding its own business or just sitting and chirping on its nest? I know your not suppose to roller skate in a buffalo herd but why did the chicken cross the road?..

Do you walk to school or carry your lunch?

 

[antmike915]

I would've taken the 1st offer no questions asked but if I was hesitant at the time and got a 2nd offer 4 thousand plus more than the original I would've taken that no questions asked. I would call him tomorrow.