GOLD RUSH ALASKA season 2

[Goodyguy]

On the Discovery Channel Friday, October 28, 2011 at 9PM e/p.

Well folks it wont be long until the drama continues
Here's a sneak preview...

 

[Gork]

There is an "expose" on reality shows done in the Village Voice. Although I have not read the article, I did see a review of it in the Canadian press. It stated that the people on these shows are interviewed and the ones picked are those who have "conflict problem" personalities. These are nothing more than soap operas without the program having to pay Hollywood stars salaries.

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

I am enjoying Gork's and Klondikeike's stories and gold way more than watching the Gold Rush Alaska show!
Keep em coming guy's. Gives us something real to enjoy between Friday nights

BIG DITTO ON THE "DRAMA-FREE" TRUE STORIES.

 

[Hangingfor8]

I really like Parker and his grandfather. I enjoy the way his grandfather lets him learn.

 

[Goodyguy]

GoodyGuy:

Thanks for the heads up on those books. I have been collecting books on the Klondike for over thirty years. It can get very expensive for the rare ones.

Then here are over 200 books & journals, on the Klondike From 1800 on...........
Plenty to read during those long cold winters
http://openlibrary.org/search?q=klondike&has_fulltext=true

Gerry,

I received your excellent treatise titled, "The Butterfield Trail and Overland Mail Company in Arizona 1851-1861".
All I can say is WOW! Talk about a goldmine and wealth of information! It is a true treasure trove of well laid out history complete with maps, diagrams, and photos, not to mention the first hand eye witness accounts written in a coherent and matter of fact style that makes it not only an informative but also pleasurable read.

Thank you for taking the time to research and document such a rich time in Arizona's history. I actually felt like I went back in time and was along for exciting rides on the Trails. If I were in Arizona right now, I would be in my 4x4 with my metal detectors looking for relics and treasure along the route.


GG~

 

[Goodyguy]

As far as last nights episode goes I guess it was ok but the producers waited till the end to show the clean outs.
Looks like being a mechanic in Alaska pays pretty good $250.00 an hour and they managed to milk a $500 job into $2000.00

The Hoffmans did one thing right, they got great clean up equipment and someone who knew how to operate it
I did expect to see a nugget or two though

Got to see the evil side of Parker ....a little hard to watch for me, I was disappointed by Parkers behavior and his foul mouth every time he has a problem. But then I also am not a fan of Todd's use of the word "Frick"
Guess I'm turning into a prude in my old age

GG~

 

[GrayCloud]

The young punk and disrespect came out of Parker. The boy was born with a Golden Spoon in his mouth. Somewhere along the line, the belt did not find his A$$. I would never have talked to my Grandparents in that tone or manner.
Buddy, as for the lack of pickers or nuggets on the Hoffman's cleanup. Did they say earlier in the show, that they were running material from the top of the Pay Streak? If so, that may account for the fine gold cleanup.

 

[Goodyguy]

Buddy, as for the lack of pickers or nuggets on the Hoffman's cleanup. Did they say earlier in the show, that they were running material from the top of the Pay Streak? If so, that may account for the fine gold cleanup.

Well I guess you have a point there, but it seemed to me there were larger pieces of gold in the last riffle of the hydraulic system than what I saw last night.

 

[jeff of pa]

I'm not Convinced the Blowup by parker was real.
Just like in the Preview they hint the Old
man will have a Heart attack
on the next Show. Too much Coincidence
to have a tear jerker episode
around the hollidays.

 

[Goodyguy]

I'm not Convinced the Blowup by parker was real.
Just like in the Preview they hint the Old
man will have a Heart attack
on the next Show. Too much Coincidence
to have a tear jerker episode
around the hollidays .

You may be right...... However, last night's aftershow previewed that Parker is also going to have it out with his mother on the next episode
Even though the young lad is under a lot of stress for someone his age, I believe GrayCloud made a good point about the belt.

 

[GrayCloud]

Buddy, you may have a point there. Sounds like the production crew may be holding back on us. I felt the same thing on last on last years show.
Jeff, I am not too sure Ole Grandpa could be scripted, as it sure looked like he was hurt. But we just don't know how many times the film has been cut.

 

[Goodyguy]

Buddy, you may have a point there. Sounds like the production crew may be holding back on us. I felt the same thing on last on last years show.
Jeff, I am not too sure Ole Grandpa could be scripted, as it sure looked like he was hurt. But we just don't know how many times the film has been cut.

Here is what Parker is saying on his facebook page:

"Looks like I was kind of an ass to grandpa. In his old age he has gotten much more relaxed that he used to be and has made business less of a priority when making decisions. If this were 40 years ago he wouldn't have shut down the plant, he would not promote 40 minute lunch breaks, he wouldn't shut the mine down in mid September. He has been operating the mine for the past few decades as a hobby more than a business and when I came around to take charge this summer he was still in "retirement mode". He has been a boss for the better part of 70 years and old habits die hard. Still no excuse for acting that way but after losing nearly 30 grand in the month preceding that I was in no mood to be graceful. If you ain't washing rocks you ain't makin money."

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Parker-Schnabel/266076300104716

 

[Goodyguy]

Gold Rush Alaska S02E08 - On the Gold


http://www.streamo.tv/watch,videobb,CUb8D46SC15s.html

 

[Jeffro]

Buddy, you may have a point there. Sounds like the production crew may be holding back on us. I felt the same thing on last on last years show.
Jeff, I am not too sure Ole Grandpa could be scripted, as it sure looked like he was hurt. But we just don't know how many times the film has been cut.

Here is what Parker is saying on his facebook page:

"Looks like I was kind of an ass to grandpa. In his old age he has gotten much more relaxed that he used to be and has made business less of a priority when making decisions. If this were 40 years ago he wouldn't have shut down the plant, he would not promote 40 minute lunch breaks, he wouldn't shut the mine down in mid September. He has been operating the mine for the past few decades as a hobby more than a business and when I came around to take charge this summer he was still in "retirement mode". He has been a boss for the better part of 70 years and old habits die hard. Still no excuse for acting that way but after losing nearly 30 grand in the month preceding that I was in no mood to be graceful. If you ain't washing rocks you ain't makin money."

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Parker-Schnabel/266076300104716

100% true.... but still no cause to talk like that to the Grandad. If I had ever talked to my Grandfather that way, no matter how old I was, I'd be fearing for my ass!

 

[SeaninNH]

Watch the episode again. Parker was not only fighting a smile during that "argument", but he actually slipped a small smile a couple of times.

100% scripted IMO.

 

[clovis97]

I felt like Parker's yelling was scripted too.

Either way, real or not, my opinion of Parker fell when I saw that episode.

 

[Goodyguy]

I felt like Parker's yelling was scripted too.

Either way, real or not, my opinion of Parker fell when I saw that episode.

It's human nature to take your frustrations out on those closest to you, This Friday he lets loose on his mother

I suppose this coming Friday is the last episode

In this special, exclusive behind the scenes footage capturing the production of Gold Rush is revealed. Four film crews spread over 600 miles, battle the wilderness in Alaska and the Klondike to film every twist and turn of the three mining operations.

Next...on Discovery premiering January 27.... Fridays at 9:00........ Bering Sea Gold: The New Gold Frontier
Welcome to the latest Alaskan gold rush, where only the toughest brave the frigid waters off Nome to go dredging for a fortune in gold lying on the bottom of the Bering Sea.

The new program promises to be more of the same old drama only with different characters
The big difference is, these guy's are the real deal.
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/bering-sea-gold-meet-the-miners.html

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

REAL OR SCRIPTED, DISRESPECTING YOUR PARENTS BRINGS DISHONOR TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

IT STINKS WHEN MONEY REPLACES HONOR.

MERRY CHRISTMAS FOLKS AND GOD BLESS.
MIKEL

 

[Gork]

GoodyGuy:

Thanks for the heads up on those books. I have been collecting books on the Klondike for over thirty years. It can get very expensive for the rare ones.

Then here are over 200 books & journals, on the Klondike From 1800 on...........
Plenty to read during those long cold winters
http://openlibrary.org/search?q=klondike&has_fulltext=true

Gerry,

I received your excellent treatise titled, "The Butterfield Trail and Overland Mail Company in Arizona 1851-1861".
All I can say is WOW! Talk about a goldmine and wealth of information! It is a true treasure trove of well laid out history complete with maps, diagrams, and photos, not to mention the first hand eye witness accounts written in a coherent and matter of fact style that makes it not only an informative but also pleasurable read.

Thank you for taking the time to research and document such a rich time in Arizona's history. I actually felt like I went back in time and was along for exciting rides on the Trails. If I were in Arizona right now, I would be in my 4x4 with my metal detectors looking for relics and treasure along the route.


GG~

Thanks for the kind words. As far as looking for relics along the route in Arizona, the entire trail is protected one way or another. About 50% of the trail and station sites are on Federal, State, and Indian Nation ground. The 1978 Archaeology law is very tough. The other 50% is on private property. Also, one thing I never do is drive (or rarely so and only when necessary) on or within 100 feet of the trail. The original trail ruts are the primary artifact that should be preserved and driving on them will destroy them. Driving within 100 feet of the trail would ruin many artifacts.
I walk, it is the only way. I have found that most things cannot be seen from an ATV anyway. I don't even own one. I can still pack up to 20 miles a day.
There are certain things I have asked myself. Two years ago, I found a significant military site from the California Column of 1862. It had about the highest density of military material I have seen. Most of the historic material along the trail in Arizona will lay on top of the ground (hard pan). After taking a break of documenting the material (in situ and it is still there) a thought occurred to me. I estimated the present worth of the artifacts to be $200-$300 conservatively. Who would completely take away part of our great Western history for a lousy $300 and ruin the knowledge of that history forever? The material is still there and I am going back to the site with someone from the Arizona Historical Society to further explore and document the site. Am I afraid someone will find the site and remove the material? No. It has been my experience that not one in a thousand knows how to look for anomalies in the environment.
Our laws concerning protecting this are archaic. Good people, such as yourself, could be of great assistance to preserve our history if we had archaeology laws such as Great Britain and Northern Europe. The historical material along the Butterfield Trail in Arizona is rapidly disappearing. Not because of illegal treasure hunters, but because of the unique erosion patterns that exist in Arizona. There is too much to go into here, but some of this is addressed in my new book. You will probably have noted some of the participants on this site are from Northern European countries. They find fantastic things. They often mention their "Treasure Trove" laws which encourage them to actually hunt for these fantastic treasures and then notify the authorities. The authorities excavate the site preserving maximum value of the artifacts and the finders are paid the full present value. The artifacts are then added to museum displays to preserve the history. Everybody wins!!!!!!
Since 50% of the trail is on private property, with laws like the Northern Europeans, deals could be made (often 50-50) with private land owners for people like yourself to hunt their property along the trail. You make a buck and our history is preserved.
I am sure you are aware of the latest example of this in Great Britain. It has been on television recently and in a recent National Geographic magazine about some good ol' boy with a metal detector, who is now rich and a hero in Great Britain, who discovered a fantastic Anglo-Saxon gold hoard.
We need laws like this because our present ones are not working.

 

[kuger]

..........Gork,Kudo's to you for doing the right thing but.....be cautious of who you show that site to.There was some petroglyphs my family knew about for years and we were the only ones that knew they were there(for fact)Well my Dad thought he was doing the right thing and told the BLM about them,and took two of there people in(on horseback)Mind you,we knew about these for over 50 years.......within months of Dads trip with those "folks",somebody went in with malls and chisels and took %90 of what they could

 

[Gork]

..........Gork,Kudo's to you for doing the right thing but.....be cautious of who you show that site to.There was some petroglyphs my family knew about for years and we were the only ones that knew they were there(for fact)Well my Dad thought he was doing the right thing and told the BLM about them,and took two of there people in(on horseback)Mind you,we knew about these for over 50 years.......within months of Dads trip with those "folks",somebody went in with malls and chisels and took %90 of what they could

Very good advice. This is why I am going to study the site more with a friend who is the same "level" as me. We are both into preserving the history of the Butterfield Overland Trail in Arizona. I have been working with this fellow for five years and trust him completely. I might add a comment here. We sometimes refer to BLM ground. The proper way to define it is as Federal ground administered by the BLM.