Freemindedclark
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Just see rock with erosion, better luck next time.
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Freemindedclark, we have rules on language, substituting characters for letters to bypass our censor still violates our rules. Please post by our rules.
I apologise for the rule violation but stand by my comment.
Sorry you don't like my opinion, it is based on 36 years of hunting and finding artifacts in fields, rivers, streams and creeks in the mid-west. There is nothing in pictures of the rock that suggests it was worked by man.
While I am by no means an expert, I have learned a lot from watching the more experienced folks on here identify artifacts and at the same time I have seen them extend their expertise in showing why many are not man worked pieces. Nature can cause holes, wear, grooves and it seems that many are asking for help but not wanting to learn to know the difference between a natural wear pattern and a man made one. It seems ridiculous to me that a novice(like myself) will ask for help and then argue that they know best.I guess you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
I respect each individuals personal opinion. I think that there are to many people on this site that value thier opinion above all others. I am by no means an expert myself. At the same time I know this wasn't naturally formed. I am willing to learn. But it takes more than simply saying it's natural erosion to teach someone. How does one distinguish between a natural groove and a man made one when they are identical?
Yes, it does take more then "just a rock" or "natural erosion", or similar generic terms that don't convey much info. But, the difficulty that presents itself is that we cannot teach you face to face, live, handing rocks back and forth. It is actually a truly formidable task to elaborate lessons in a virtual format. It's actually extremely difficult.
Another "problem" that presents itself is that for experienced collectors, knowledge has become second nature, so that recognition as to whether rock or artifact can be near instantaneous, yet, because it is second nature, born of years or decades of experience, the original logical deductions and thought processes that produce answers are not easy to reconstruct for experienced collectors. That's what happens when knowledge, understanding, and recognition become second nature. So, while I can understand your frustration with "natural erosion", sometimes these brief, non detailed, answers are all that is possible in a virtual venue. It really is not our fault. To a great degree, the venue dictates it. It's far, far better when the rocks, artifacts, and teaching can take place in person. And explaining geological processes like erosion just ain't easy in any venue.
If you don't get the answer you prefer to get, you just need to live with it. People are still simply offering honest opinions, most based on experience. You can doubt the answers you receive, file them away, and continue to believe what you wish. Maybe the groove is man made, maybe it's a broken artifact that none of us can recognize as such from your photos. Maybe opinions would differ in person.