Guns in Todays Society

[stefen]

Guns in Today's Society

Guns and hunting have always been a part of my life, and with many fine memories...and a few regretable ones too.

However, I was brought in a time and place that was conducive to that lifestyle which is not available to my grandchildren.

Recently, I updated my Last Will & Testament, and had considerable thoughts regarding the disposition of my personal fire arms and those heirlooms passed down thru the family.

Instead of leaving the guns to my 4 grandsons, I am leaving them to a local museum with the instructions that the museum sell the guns and use the proceeds for the good of the youth in our community.

This, by no means, means that I do advocate the loss of the privilige provided by the founding fathers, quite the opposite.

I am not asking for advice, just stating my position.

 

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[packerbacker]

Re: Guns in Today's Society

Just curious Stefen, why isn't that lifestyle available to your grandchildren? It certainly is to mine. 3 of mine just took hunter safety training just a couple months ago. Even if they can't use them, maybe they would treasure just having them because they were once yours and pass them down even further. Gun values keep going up and maybe they could cash them in a little further down the line to get something they really want or need. Maybe they could use them just to defend their own homes. I know you are just sharing info here but, to me and my family's way of thinking, it's like selling Great Granma's fine China or Grandpa's pocket watch. They may want guns later in life and not even have the right to buy one.

 

[Zectron2348]

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Just curious Stefen, why isn't that lifestyle available to your grandchildren? It certainly is to mine. 3 of mine just took hunter safety training just a couple months ago. Even if they can't use them, maybe they would treasure just having them because they were once yours and pass them down even further. Gun values keep going up and maybe they could cash them in a little further down the line to get something they really want or need. Maybe they could use them just to defend their own homes. I know you are just sharing info here but, to me and my family's way of thinking, it's like selling Great Granma's fine China or Grandpa's pocket watch. They may want guns later in life and not even have the right to buy one.

Well said.

 

[Newt]

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Guns and hunting have always been a part of my life, and with many fine memories...and a few regretable ones too.

However, I was brought in a time and place that was conducive to that lifestyle which is not available to my grandchildren.

Recently, I updated my Last Will & Testament, and had considerable thoughts regarding the disposition of my personal fire arms and those heirlooms passed down thru the family.

Instead of leaving the guns to my 4 grandsons, I am leaving them to a local museum with the instructions that the museum sell the guns and use the proceeds for the good of the youth in our community.

This, by no means, means that I do advocate the loss of the privilige provided by the founding fathers, quite the opposite.

I am not asking for advice, just stating my position.

IMO, that's just wrong! Irresponsibility is a different story.
Newt

 

[corklabus]

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Some interesting food for thought being offered here, Newt.
As a gun owner and also considering passing items on when I'm gone, the first thing I considered about my weapons was my evaluation of the personalities of the people who would get them. It sounds to me as if you were in the same frame of mind as I was. My problem with guns in society today are the unscrupulous people who have no resect for anything or anyone. The guns aren't the problem. It's the gutter trash that have no business with them. As I thought of these things, I didn't want my children or grand children to believe that I thought of them as being those types of people.
SOooooo.........I traded my guns off and got me a BOAT. Now we can ALL fish together and get much more enjoyment out of that than I ever got from the guns on any regular basis. I have nothing against hunting or teaching children the proper things related to weapons. I'm just glad I had the bright idea to find something we could enjoy that was less controversial. I DO still keep something to protect the homefront, but that's just a single necessary piece.

 

[Newt]

Re: Guns in Today's Society

Some interesting food for thought being offered here, Newt.
As a gun owner and also considering passing items on when I'm gone, the first thing I considered about my weapons was my evaluation of the personalities of the people who would get them. It sounds to me as if you were in the same frame of mind as I was. My problem with guns in society today are the unscrupulous people who have no resect for anything or anyone. The guns aren't the problem. It's the gutter trash that have no business with them. As I thought of these things, I didn't want my children or grand children to believe that I thought of them as being those types of people.
SOooooo.........I traded my guns off and got me a BOAT. Now we can ALL fish together and get much more enjoyment out of that than I ever got from the guns on any regular basis. I have nothing against hunting or teaching children the proper things related to weapons. I'm just glad I had the bright idea to find something we could enjoy that was less controversial. I DO still keep something to protect the homefront, but that's just a single necessary piece.

So what will your kids protect themselves with when your not around anymore? They have to buy now?
Newt

 

[Sandman]

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I am a proud gun owner and life member of the NRA. I take my grand kids to the gun range and hunting. They are learning the safe handling of firearms and when I am gone they will inherit many fine firearms and thousand of rounds of ammo.


Better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

 

[Likely Guy]

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Guns and hunting have always been a part of my life, and with many fine memories...and a few regretable ones too.

However, I was brought in a time and place that was conducive to that lifestyle which is not available to my grandchildren.

Recently, I updated my Last Will & Testament, and had considerable thoughts regarding the disposition of my personal fire arms and those heirlooms passed down thru the family.

Instead of leaving the guns to my 4 grandsons, I am leaving them to a local museum with the instructions that the museum sell the guns and use the proceeds for the good of the youth in our community.

This, by no means, means that I do advocate the loss of the privilige provided by the founding fathers, quite the opposite.

I am not asking for advice, just stating my position.

Stefen, that's a great 'leave'.

If your grandson's don't want it, and have shown no interest, I'm sure they'd agree. If the proceeds goes towards the betterment of the youth in your community... everyone should be happy. In the meantime, these heirlooms can be viewed at the local museum.

Good on you.

 

[hogge]

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I am a proud gun owner and life member of the NRA. I take my grand kids to the gun range and hunting. They are learning the safe handling of firearms and when I am gone they will inherit many fine firearms and thousand of rounds of ammo.


Better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

I use that statement alot. And, in todays society, how true it is!

 

[Mainedigger]

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All I can say is that out of the many guns I own, the ones most cherished by me are the ones that my grandfather and g-grandfather owned. They aren;t worth alot money wise but it kinda neat to know that I am the fourth generation of my family to use them and my son and daughter will be the fifth to do so.
What happens if your grandkids get a chance to use em and don;t have em, or maybe their children would like to own something their g-grandfather owned.
My advice would be to re-think your decision, but it is still a free country and you can and are able to do what you please with them...and hopefully that right will be forever ours and our childrens!!

 

[Zectron2348]

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All I can say is that out of the many guns I own, the ones most cherished by me are the ones that my grandfather and g-grandfather owned. They aren;t worth alot money wise but it kinda neat to know that I am the fourth generation of my family to use them and my son and daughter will be the fifth to do so.
What happens if your grandkids get a chance to use em and don;t have em, or maybe their children would like to own something their g-grandfather owned.
My advice would be to re-think your decision, but it is still a free country and you can and are able to do what you please with them...and hopefully that right will be forever ours and our childrens!!

Well said!

 

[truckinbutch]

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Stefen ,
I have valued all our exchanges and your fine wit and consider you a friend . I am sorry that your family situation has brought you to the point of a decision like this at the same time that I am sharing the wonders of a free life with my own grandkids that will eventually inherit my sporting arms that they have learned to use and respect under my tutelege .
I'm disappointed that you have reached a decision like this but it will not diminish my respect and friendship for you .
Jim

 

[stefen]

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Thanks to y'all...great comments and varied concerns. Don't think for a minute that I'd am not listening, or why else would I open this line of conversation.

I grew up on a farm outside of Columbus Ohio and had 600 acres of crop field, pasture and woods to roam and hunt. That was a different time and place quite unlike where my grandchildren are being brought up today.

I have eight grandkids, 4 girls and 4 boys, and 2 of the boys live in a rural equestrian community and are involved in 4H, and a multitude of other activities. The others are city folk with city folk problems and social demands.

It would be fantastic if my grandchildren had the opportunity to life a full rural lifestyle afforded to many in the midwest and east coast areas, however Southern California does not provide those types of opportunities.

Secondly, I refuse to impose my personal demands (and lifestyle) on my daughters or their children, nor would they let me cross that delicate line.

As stated, I do not advocate the abolishion of guns or the protection they have provided now and in the future. And yes, there will be a time when the socialist thinking Obama's are constantly elected to office and many of our rights are withered away.

My gun collection has served its purpose for me, my father and grandfather, and now someone else will benefit, both the new buyer(s) and the youth of my community, some who constantly live in fear of guns, and everyday shootings in the gang areas.

As to owning something belong to a grandfather or great-grandfather, there is an plithera of things that fill that desire.

 

[homefires]

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Wow is all I can say!

What makes you think a museum would adhere to your wishes?

Being the Liberal bunch that most of them are , I think they would just have them destroyed.

 

[stefen]

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Wow is all I can say!

What makes you think a museum would adhere to your wishes?

Being the Liberal bunch that most of them are , I think they would just have them destroyed.

Without getting into the guts of the gift instructions, basically the gift has legal strings attached and the museum will be required to answer to the courts.

The museum, in short, is to sell the guns and use the proceeds in a specific manner...the money is not to become a part of the general operating fund or for salaries...

The museum earmarked may refuse the gift, therefore a secondary list indicates other museums. The gift offer must be acceptable, and as such, the meseum must comply with the distribution.