Hello everyone - I Finally Registered! and My Dreams

[Eureka!]

Been looking around TreasureNet for about six months. Great crowd of people sharing their experiences!

After doing my research, I ordered a Garrett AT PRO for my first machine. It seemed like the best value for my purposes. What really made me decide on the Garrett AT PRO was after watching this young guy who found [[[TONS]]] of relics with the AT PRO- he goes by Nuggettnoggin on uTube. give him a watch - he genuinely loves metal detecting and is an inspiration to all who want to pursue this great pastime.

I'd welcome hearing from anyone who is into securing "uniform" rights for all, to detect on ALL PUBLIC LAND. The Laws are very confusing and somewhat convoluted. I believe that each state should issue a license to metal detect on all Public Lands after certain qualifications are met by an applicant. So, If you're a Real Estate Lawyer or a Constitutional Law expert; let me know what you think.

I would also like to see a course made available to High School Students. It would make History Classes more interesting as they could form Clubs and organize Field Trips to Historical Landmarks and such and legally Detect under the supervision of a State Qualified Detectorist. Any finds would then be displayed at the Town Halls or local Historical Society and would bear the name of the person which found the object or Relic. This is my dream and I want organize this effort soon after I get my feet wet.

Looking forward to digging some relics and sharing them with the population! WE THE PEOPLE!

 

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[Terry Soloman]

Welcome from White Plains, New York!

 

[vpnavy]

Welcome aboard! You didn't list your state (or country) in your profile. So, you might consider jumping over to Sub-Forums: Select Your Area.... and selecting your state for information (i.e., clubs, hunts, finds, legends, maps, etc.) directly related to your state (or country).

 

[smalltowngirl13]

Hello and welcome to the forum!

 

[Eureka!]

Welcome aboard! You didn't list your state (or country) in your profile. So, you might consider jumping over to Sub-Forums: Select Your Area.... and selecting your state for information (i.e., clubs, hunts, finds, legends, maps, etc.) directly related to your state (or country).

VPNAVY - It is listed. Look again. That's all you need to know. Ever heard the saying: "loose lips sink ships?" I'm sure you did. I will tell you that we have something in common other than MDing. I was a Second Class E 5 Aviation Machinist Mate with VA 165 and VA 75. Did two cruises on the USS Ranger (combat WestPac) and one cruise on the USS Saratoga (Med Cruise). First cruise i was a Plane Captain. Second Cruise I was the Line Petty Officer. Third Cruise same. I also was a 4,0 Sailor. for the last two of the four years which I served.

The way you're barking orders at me I am guessing you must have been a Chief.

CARRY ON SAILOR!

 

[Eureka!]

Hello and welcome to the forum!

Thank you smalltowngirl13. Does the 13 signify you age? Just wanted to know because its my lucky number. :-)

 

[Eureka!]

Welcome from White Plains, New York!

Thank you Mr Soloman!

 

[Tnmountains]

Great screen name. Look forward to seeing your post and finds.
Happy Hunting.

 

[Eureka!]

Great screen name. Look forward to seeing your post and finds. Happy Hunting.

Thank you TNMountains. I only hope that I'll find something to make me scream: EUREKA!

Funny though, I think that there was vacuum cleaner with the same name.

Happy Finding to you too.

 

[smalltowngirl13]

Thank you smalltowngirl13. Does the 13 signify you age? Just wanted to know because its my lucky number. :-)

It is my lucky number as well - has been since before I was 13 LOL ...

 

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[voodoo]

howdy and welcome to the forum!! I think you have some great ideas that can be used in Canada as well. Take care and hope to see some of your finds!

 

[Rookster]

Welcome to Tnet.

 

[Eureka!]

howdy and welcome to the forum!! I think you have some great ideas that can be used in Canada as well. Take care and hope to see some of your finds!

Thanks for the compliment on my ideas,Voodoo.

My thoughts are that we have to bring order to our pastime. The Laws MD'ing are convoluted, inconsistent from area to area and department to department, and too complicated for the average person to research and in some cases to comply with, without some forms of undue hardships.

If you ever researched the laws with regard to Metal Detecting on Government owned property (which can be construed to mean any property (Land, Sea or Air-rights) other than Private Property you would know that there are a myriad of the different agencies to check before you decide to search on Federal, State, County, City, Town, or Village properties. Departments of Governments can include Bureau of Land, National Parks, Historic Landmarks Commissions, The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) (and more). It's very discouraging and that's exactly what they want the process to be: DISCOURAGING.

Functions like Hunting, Fishing, Wreck Diving, Boating, Jetskiing, Mining, Bird Watching, as well as Metal Detecting are all regulated in some way or another by the Government.

The Government would probably love to BAN MD'ing altogether but nothing in the USA can be outrightly BANNED if in any way it'll violate a person's (or a commercial entity's) Constitutional Rights. In the US, when something is BANNED it can be Constitutionally challenged in a Court of Law. So, knowing that, when a government agency doesn't like something that cannot be banned; instead they will REGULATE it by passing Laws which require that you apply for a PERMIT to preform that function. They will author the Regulation and place as many RESTRICTIONS on it as they possibly can, complicate the process to obtain permits, thereby making the Regulation nearly impossible to comply with; thereby reducing the popularity of the function.

To give you an example of how the Authorities author laws that are designed to REGULATE for example: Billboards. Most Municipalities hate Billboards and want to discourage the construction of them. They can't ban them because it would violate our constitutional rights of Free Speech. Instead they come up with restrictions and excuses for the restrictions. Example: "Billboards are a distraction to drivers and therefore cause accidents, so we will not allow Billboards to be built closer than 660 feet from any major highway and at that distance they can only be 200 sq ft in size and beyond the 660 ft they can increase in size by 1 sq. ft. for every foot beyond."

They know by placing that restriction it's going to be a game changer for any outdoor sign company because what's the sense of spending $200,000 to build a billboard that is so far from the road and so small that nobody passing will see it and no company will want to layout any cash to advertise on it. There's no value in doing that! But what they did is that they BANNED it by the choking regulations that they placed on where a billboard can be located. They knew that no business in there right mind would see any value in building a billboard in a location that would not be profitable.

The same goes for Metal Detecting. By the time you learn that you are limited in WHERE you can search, WHEN you can search, HOW you can search and WITH what you can dig with you will get so discouraged that you won't see any value in taking up a pastime whose requirements are so restrictive that you feel almost like your carrying a gun around when all your doing is holding a Metal Detector. There's no profit or value to this; monetarily, nor educationally.

You are permitted to MD on State Lands BUT you need to 1. Apply for a Permit (to the proper Authority), 2. in some cases provide a Certificate of Insurance, and 3. abide by the regulation set forth by that Authority or Agency; 3. Abide by the APPLICABLE Federal and State Laws. 4.Relinquish the Relic to the State and have no vote in where the Relic will end up. For all you know it will be store away and forgotten about just as if it were still in the ground.

Once you read the the Laws and Regulations and learn the penalty for a violation, I guarantee that it will make most looking to get into MD'ing become sick to their stomach and give up.

To make it difficult they will limit the equipment size; such as, your digging tool can't be over 4" long with a handle less than two ft in length, 4. You are restricted to certain areas, in the restricted areas you can only dig 25 ft. away from any tree, 6. Anything you find belongs to the State and must be turned over to the Park Ranger.

In addition, there are stiff penalties for any violation of the restrictions placed on us. Most, including myself would argue that the penalties are "Cruel and Unusual Punishment. So what they are really accomplishing is making Criminals out of normal everyday law abiding citizens.

Whats the logic of this? A Relic Hunter finds and removes LEAD musket balls from the ground and streams - that's not criminal! Lead has been deemed as toxic to the environment by the Environmental Protection Agency which issues HUNTING PERMITS so that Hunters can KILL animals with LEAD and put some more LEAD back into the ground when they miss a shot. Relic Hunter's are actually Lead Remediation experts.

So the next time you're stopped by an Official for MD'ing tell them that you're an "Underground Lead Removal Specialist" and that you're searching the area for underground HAZARDOUS LEAD.

Meanwhile for most, Historical Relics remain underground; (some polluting the land but for none to enjoy nor to educate therefrom).

I wish all Fishermen Happy Catching (versus "fishing") and to all MD'ers HAPPY FINDING!

 

[justdon]

Hello and welcome from florida.

 

[Eureka!]

Hello and welcome from florida.

Hello justdon and thanks for the welcome. I see you're down in FL. I bet you were "searching" nonstop as you had a mild winter compared to up north. Hope you had some nice finds!

 

[Metal Detecting Stuff]

Welcome to Treasurenet! You have some good ideas, hope it all works out.

Wayne

www.metaldetectingstuff.com