Help Identifying Some Ancients

Mackaydon said:
Scott,
I'm no expert (in anything), but I enjoy doing the research to find the answer(s).
Don in SoCal
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Don,

I am on several Facebook groups of Identifying Coins, Currency and Metal Detector finds.
But, as you know, Facebook Groups have their share of "wanna-be"
comedians and other's posts of incorrect "Facts."
Here, on Treasurenet, I don't have to worry about bogus replies to questions that I have on a myriad of topics!

Thank You, Don, and, Thank You Treasurenet!

Always my Best Wishes,

Scott
 

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Don,
I have taken pics of both sides of 5 different "oldies."
They are not Ancients but are most likely Spanish of the 16th and 17th Century.
In the realm of Felipe II.
Maravedis.
Mostly counter stamped.

Here's the pics.
I also have the weight and diameter measurements for each, if that helps.
1a.jpg

1b.jpg

2a.jpg

2b.jpg

3a.jpg
3b.jpg
4a.jpg
4b.jpg
5a.jpg
5b.jpg


This is just 5.
I have a couple of dozen more that have eluded my attribution.
Some have more detail. These were the first 5 that I picked up.....

As I said, I wish not to overwhelm you with many all at once......
Friend,
Do not spend excessive time on ID'ing any, but if you can help, I surely would appreciate it.
I HOPE that you also know this genre of coins in addition to ancients.
If not, that's cool.

I'll just have to remember which safe has the Ancients for us to follow that route.

Best of Wishes Always,

Scott
 

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Scott,
I'll give you some WAGs.
Coin #1
The castle and the letter 'P' are in the right place for this coin.
en.numista.com

4 Maravedis - Felipe III, Spain

Detailed information about the coin 4 Maravedis, Felipe III (Segovia, copper), Spain, with pictures and collection and swap management: mintage, descriptions, metal, weight, size, value and other numismatic data
en.numista.com en.numista.com
Don....
 

WAG: #4 similar to this one:
www.ebay.com

SPAIN. 1636, 6 Maravedis - NGC Fine - Philip IV, C/M Pirate Cob ERROR 006 | eBay

Offers Highly Encouraged --- We Combine Shipping! --- Guaranteed Authentic! --- Grading is subjective --- Any opinions in the listing are ours alone --- Please look at our photos to evaluate the coin --- This is the EXACT COIN you will receive (original, non-stock photos).
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Don in SoCal
 

Mackaydon said:
Scott,
How about those ancients?
Looking forward to seeing your unknowns.
Don...
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Give me a couple of days to find them.
Thanks for your help!

Best,

Scott
 

Don,
After searching through a couple ten of my safes,
I found the Ancients.
These were tentatively identified by my Anthropology Professor a few years ago while I attended College.
I will soon post photos, including his notes, seeking further attribution and comments.

Once again, Thanks! :notworthy:

Best Wishes,

Scott
 

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Here's a pic of one that was in the mix that I nor my Professor could ascertain.
A1a.jpg


A1b.jpg

(might be upside-down....)

I don't think that it is an ancient.
More likely an early Spanish copper?
Carlos of some realm?

Be Well!

Scott

PS
Hope that my pictures are OK....
 

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en.numista.com

Szeląg - August III Sas, Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth

Detailed information about the coin Szeląg, August III Sas (Gubin mint), Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, with pictures and collection and swap management: mintage, descriptions, metal, weight, size, value and other numismatic data
en.numista.com en.numista.com
Don in SoCal
PS: EL SAX is short for Elector of Saxony; Elector being similar to king.
 

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Thank You!

I'll endeavor to take pics and post over the weekend 5 more specimens yet to be further Attributed.
Including the Professors notes.
In between laundry, dishes and house cleaning..... :tongue3:

Best,
Always,

Scott
 

Scott,
Let me suggest you start a new thread. Members may have less patience scanning through multiple pages versus being on the first or second page; and the more eyes on your ancients, the better.
Don.....
 

Mackaydon said:
Scott,
Let me suggest you start a new thread. Members may have less patience scanning through multiple pages versus being on the first or second page; and the more eyes on your ancients, the better.
Don.....
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And what forum would you recommend?

Scott
 

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Don,
5 more.

A2a.jpg


A2b.jpg


A3a.jpg


A3b.jpg


A4a.jpg


A4b.jpg


A5a.jpg


A5b.jpg


A6a.jpg


A6b.jpg


Professor's notes and details.
A2-Constane I. 16mm. .7dwt
A3-Constantinius Gallus Thessalonian. 15mm. 1.1dwt
A4-Valens II. 14mm. .7dwt
A5-Valens II. 13mm. .8dwt
A6-Theodosius II. 12mm. 1.3dwt

I'll also look into starting an alternate thread.

Thanks!

Scott
 

For starters: The reverse legend on A2 will read: VICTORIAE DD AVGGQ NN: Two Victories, winged, draped, standing facing each other, each holding wreath in right hand and palm in left hand.
Here are some examples but the mint is different.

Online Coins of the Roman Empire: Browse Collection

numismatics.org numismatics.org
Don.....
PS: And if the mint mark contains "TO" it would be ANTOB (Antioch, Syria)
 

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The reverse of A4 starts with VOT (inside and near the top of the wreath). VOT means vows. It was used like a bargaining chip to a diety; promising years of service and hoping the diety would respond kindly throughout the emperor's term of service.
Each "X" represents ten years of vows.
While the mint mark is obscured, the reverse of this coin would have looked similar (only) to this:https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/vi..._vot_siliqua_from_antioch/540276/Default.aspx
Don.....
 

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