HELP IDENTIFYING THESE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The pencil is manmade. The rest are just rocks.
What do you see that made these rocks worth investigatin
i figured the pencil was man made, i wanted to double check. there are markings and worn areas where my hand is, i found them in an area that was once inhabited by native americans
 

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Maaaaaaaaaaybe the one on the pencil, I can see how some could look like removals, but if they are they’ve been heavily mineralized and I don’t see enough or any real purpose. Also not really sure any of the material is correct for stone tools
 

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Sorry, everything in the pictures is natural rocks, also don't get caught up in how a rock fits your hand either, it will always mislead you.
 

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The main thing to consider is quality. Many folk think artifacts should look like Fred Flintstone made them when in reality NA folk were highly skilled in producing quality tools.
 

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The one I'm holding is a tool. There are worn areas where the thumb and index finger sits. I found it under a toppled tree in the area where native americans lived. The area in which it was located is untouched. I had it authenticated by the local historical society. Hard to tell from pictures but all of the rocks were in the same spot within the area of past archeological excavations
 

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The one I'm holding is a tool. There are worn areas where the thumb and index finger sits. I found it under a toppled tree in the area where native americans lived. The area in which it was located is untouched. I had it authenticated by the local historical society. Hard to tell from pictures but all of the rocks were in the same spot within the area of past archeological excavations
As I said earlier, don't get caught up with how a rock fits your hand, it will mislead you every time.
 

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no one ever bothered with finger and thumb grooves.... it is not done that way. It's like this... if someone took that time to work those grooves, they would also have taken the time to finish the whole piece. Your historical society is most likely run by local volunteers with little or no formal training. If the folk here say "no" you can take it to the bank.
 

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no one ever bothered with finger and thumb grooves.... it is not done that way. It's like this... if someone took that time to work those grooves, they would also have taken the time to finish the whole piece. Your historical society is most likely run by local volunteers with little or no formal training. If the folk here say "no" you can take it to the bank.
Unclemac is correct, they did not make finger or thumb grooves, it would also take hundreds of years of constant use to wear finger grooves in the rock.

I have seen historical societys call pieces real that were actually fake and call natural rocks artifacts because they actually knew very little about Indian artifacts.

If you take it to an artifact show the experts there will tell you the same thing.
 

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I understand what you're saying and I agree however with this rock , in person, has enough characteristics to not be just a rock.

There are no characteristics in the pictures shown, again they did not make tools with finger or thumb grooves, and it would take hundreds of years of constant use to wear the grooves down by hand naturally. There are no signs of it being chipped or ground down by hand.
 

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