help me with this things guys..
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Interesting, I definitely see the turtle although it appears to be a natural formation except for the face. The channels in the other pictures also seem to me to be too deep to be anything other than natural. The coffin/pentagonal shaped rock however needs further study, it seems out of place and could well be a marker. Is it resting on the turtle formation? What is it pointing toward? Is it pointing in the same direction as the turtle's head? Were there other markers leading you to that area?
I seem to have more questions than answers. Others will have more experienced input. I have no experience with markers/signs in Barbados. I noticed from viewing Google Earth that the Island of Barbados does have several mining operations working.
I seem to have more questions than answers. Others will have more experienced input. I have no experience with markers/signs in Barbados. I noticed from viewing Google Earth that the Island of Barbados does have several mining operations working.
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Just out of couriosity...
Is this in the Philipines?
To get a better picture, clean the moss and stuff out of the chisel groves.
You will be surprised what will show up.
Thom
Is this in the Philipines?
To get a better picture, clean the moss and stuff out of the chisel groves.
You will be surprised what will show up.
Thom
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I have no idea what rocks in Barbados even look like normally much less try to figure out how these might be different.
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Jim,
thats a false trail , all rocks are indigenous!! - you think that they would bring in rocks
from Spain or South America to Barbados. Critics never think things thru very well - they
only want their agenda to be heard, nothing else matters even the truth.
While most of these rocks do appear natural, the turtle head does look crafted and that
warrants further investigation, to look for some confirmation marks. All marks made by
the Jesuits and the Spanish had to have confirmation marks to let the correct people know
that they were not just "reading clouds" so until those marks have been looked for and
either found or not found, it does a disservice to shut people off right at the beginning
and say that they 'have nothing' or that it is 'just natural' ect ect, before an investigation
can be conducted. It is not fair to the poster who took the time to come here and post
the pics, it is not fair to the newbies who look in here and try to learn something, and it is
not fair to the forum itself as this is a place of investigation , not a place to deny, dissuade
or discourage treasure hunters!
auferiously
rangler
"pessimists tear things down... optimists build things up"
thats a false trail , all rocks are indigenous!! - you think that they would bring in rocks
from Spain or South America to Barbados. Critics never think things thru very well - they
only want their agenda to be heard, nothing else matters even the truth.
While most of these rocks do appear natural, the turtle head does look crafted and that
warrants further investigation, to look for some confirmation marks. All marks made by
the Jesuits and the Spanish had to have confirmation marks to let the correct people know
that they were not just "reading clouds" so until those marks have been looked for and
either found or not found, it does a disservice to shut people off right at the beginning
and say that they 'have nothing' or that it is 'just natural' ect ect, before an investigation
can be conducted. It is not fair to the poster who took the time to come here and post
the pics, it is not fair to the newbies who look in here and try to learn something, and it is
not fair to the forum itself as this is a place of investigation , not a place to deny, dissuade
or discourage treasure hunters!
auferiously
rangler
"pessimists tear things down... optimists build things up"
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i've taken that photos in different location throughout..
dont know if treasure burial really existed,, im just a newbie,.
im just asking for ur expert opinion guys...
thanks,, please dont be rude...
the pentagon rock came from a digged,,
most of the rock in that digged looks like a slice of pizza pie..
triangular form...
40 ft below...
there are 2 huge rectangular rocks,, and smooth, 10 ft up d hyt the width probably 2 to 3 meters,, and so on coz we havent seen the last portion of that rocks..
dont know if treasure burial really existed,, im just a newbie,.
im just asking for ur expert opinion guys...
thanks,, please dont be rude...
the pentagon rock came from a digged,,
most of the rock in that digged looks like a slice of pizza pie..
triangular form...
40 ft below...
there are 2 huge rectangular rocks,, and smooth, 10 ft up d hyt the width probably 2 to 3 meters,, and so on coz we havent seen the last portion of that rocks..
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It doesn't matter what treasure the search is for.
It matters what signs are showing now.
whether Spanish or Yama.
I repeat, it doesn't matter. Period.
To discourage the hunt for a single hunter ...
no matter the location. Defeats the intention of this site.
It matters what signs are showing now.
whether Spanish or Yama.
I repeat, it doesn't matter. Period.
To discourage the hunt for a single hunter ...
no matter the location. Defeats the intention of this site.
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dont know what treasure is inside or probably none..
that why im asking for your expert opinion and posted something here...
thanks Rangler...
based on i encounter on that dig...
it wonders me!!
1 - 10 ft below all soil...
10- 40 ft. beyond a file of huge rock,, none soil...
a rock that has lots of different shape on it including the pentagon one...
huge rock are not exactly solid,, they are pile but when they destroy it has yellowish sand on it, and some there are sort of a black portion of soil dont know what exactly is,, that seperate between those huge rock to one another...
the 2 huge portion rock below creates a miniature canal... width of that hole probably a half inch, the lines probably 3 meters,,...
we used a nylon and nail to measure the depth of that hole and 15 ft under..
im just a newbie,, im not as experience as you guys...
your help well be much appreciated in the future...
THANK YOU!!!!
that why im asking for your expert opinion and posted something here...
thanks Rangler...
based on i encounter on that dig...
it wonders me!!
1 - 10 ft below all soil...
10- 40 ft. beyond a file of huge rock,, none soil...
a rock that has lots of different shape on it including the pentagon one...
huge rock are not exactly solid,, they are pile but when they destroy it has yellowish sand on it, and some there are sort of a black portion of soil dont know what exactly is,, that seperate between those huge rock to one another...
the 2 huge portion rock below creates a miniature canal... width of that hole probably a half inch, the lines probably 3 meters,,...
we used a nylon and nail to measure the depth of that hole and 15 ft under..
im just a newbie,, im not as experience as you guys...
your help well be much appreciated in the future...
THANK YOU!!!!
Old Dog
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hotbabe said:
from what you discribe...
It is Spanish.
Not Yama.
A whole different set of rules apply.
Be careful.
Thom
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hotbabe said:
Some people here are not experienced, they just want to sound good. You'll figure out who they are.
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It is false advice to tell someone they have nothing, when the person saying
that has no exerience in telling whether a rock is natural or not! To cut them
off at the knees, before anyone else has a chance to emamine the pic for
what might be redeeming values or signs, I notice that you , seem to lurk
on this site , so that you can be the very first one to pounce on the posters
pic and prematurely discourage and spin the thing in to the ground.
No one here is as childish as to tell someone they have a monument when
they do not! The abiblity to read these signs take decades to learn, just
because you cant read them is no surprise to those of us here who can!,
It takes experience, training, research, a mentor really helps as well..
and years and years of tracking, lots of new boots, and thousands of pics, and hours
and hours of examining those pics, looking for valid confirmation marks.
You know and we know you have not done that, you prove it to all of us
99% of the time you make your comments.
The only thing we dont know , is why you have such a hatred for treasure
hunters, but your bias is large, misshaped, misdirected in that you discourage
posters who do have legitimate signs!! That is far from the truthful
premiss that you say you are here for. So you are going against your own
stated mission here.
All opinions on these matters are NOT valid if they are WRONG! It is a disservice!
You cant tell if it is a normal rock if you have no experieince in telling the difference,
many many times you have told people that they have 'nothing' and in once case of
the person in the Phillipines, you told him that, and you have absolutley no experience
with Yama's set of treasure markers,in fact you have stated that there is no such thing
as Yamas treasure, when many know better!
I met him on back channels and 6 months later we are still working on his lay out
a genuine Yama site, located on his own lot of land, that was occupied by the
Japanese during ww2. This left over treasure is the
only legecy that the Filipinos have, after being ravaged by the evil forces of ww2, and
the robbery of Marcos of his own people, who now live in abject poverty.
These sites
belong to the Filipinos and they deserve all the help we can give them for being the
loyal and brave allies that they have continued to be since world war 2. To tell this
man that his marks where nothing and that he should forget about it, was a huge
disservice to him and his countrymen. You should reflect on the ramifications of your
actions, when you speak from no experience and an obviously stated bias.
A poster does deserve the truth about his pictures as far as possible,
and that takes time and experience, time for all of us here who are knowledgeable
in this field to determine of the sign is a act of nature or man, that doesnt come
from firing from the hip ( on the first post under the pic submitted)
Mother nature can make many phantasmagorically shaped rocks, the Jesuits and the
Spanish knew this very very welll, having done this kind of work for over 300 years in
the New World. This was used by them perfectly to hide their own signs!
They knew that people would not notice things if they were hidden in plain site
AND blended in with the natural cracks. geo-facts, diastrophism , faulting, erosion
or bumps, or particular shapes that nature can make.
NOW add shadows which no one is trained to pay any attention to at all
and you have a compete monument, hidden right in plain site, in
your face, on your way to where ever you are going and the more times you pass it without
noticing anything, the more it disappears in to the back ground !!!
Even with those of us who have over 20 and and even 30 years of experience and a hundred years
of combined experience of decoding these things, it still take times and investigation, to determine
whether a sign is a "normal" rock or not!!
AS the Jesuits where ending their career here in the new world, the conflict with
the King, that made the Jesuits use more and more subtle signs, to an amazing degree, the
monuments you see with towering boulders, 20-30 and even 50ft high, were reduced to smaller
and smaller monuments, with more and more subtle shadows , that give up very little data at all.
If you are not savvy to the code of shadows and signs.
Some were shadows signs that were only meant to be seen for MINUTES per day...some were
made so that the shadows were only visible on the Summer Equinox, and disappeared until
the next year, In any event the optimum time for the correct shadows to be readable and
contian the necessary data, is from 11am until 1pm,THEN ONLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS!
then the data is disguised as just an ordinary shadow, or to purposely look like an ORDINARY rock
and holds no secrets at all.......
the imagination and craftiness of the Spanish and their partners are not conceivable by ordinarily
educated person. It takes years and years of speciality training to see the things that 300 years
of study and work by the most highly educated people of the Jesuit era - could do with ease!
exactly!!
auferiously
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Hotbabe,
I suggest that you do some research on the geology and history of the area. It sounds like there has been volcanic activity at some point in history from your description of the soil and what I see visually of the rocks pictured.
What I find to be very interesting is the flat consistant thickness of the pentagonal rock and pie shapes of the other "rocks" you describe as laying in a pile. Are they flat as well? Are they the same thickness as the pentagonal one? The flat pentagonal rock looks like concrete to me. Is that possible?
Is there any evidence of that area being an ancient city or having structures of some kind? I know I have more questions than answers but your replies tell me that something about that area being unusual has your interest piqued.
Do the lines that were pointed out to you by Old Dog on the rocks have any meaning to you that you could relate to the area topography such as trails or streams or landmarks maybe paths between large rocks?
Also do you have a picture of what you describe as "a rock that has lots of different shape on it"
I am only asking these questions so others more knowledgeable than I, may be better able to help you.
Goodyguy~
I suggest that you do some research on the geology and history of the area. It sounds like there has been volcanic activity at some point in history from your description of the soil and what I see visually of the rocks pictured.
What I find to be very interesting is the flat consistant thickness of the pentagonal rock and pie shapes of the other "rocks" you describe as laying in a pile. Are they flat as well? Are they the same thickness as the pentagonal one? The flat pentagonal rock looks like concrete to me. Is that possible?
Is there any evidence of that area being an ancient city or having structures of some kind? I know I have more questions than answers but your replies tell me that something about that area being unusual has your interest piqued.
Do the lines that were pointed out to you by Old Dog on the rocks have any meaning to you that you could relate to the area topography such as trails or streams or landmarks maybe paths between large rocks?
Also do you have a picture of what you describe as "a rock that has lots of different shape on it"
I am only asking these questions so others more knowledgeable than I, may be better able to help you.
Goodyguy~
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hotbabe said....
thanks Rangler...
based on i encounter on that dig...
it wonders me!!
1 - 10 ft below all soil...
10- 40 ft. beyond a file of huge rock,, none soil...
a rock that has lots of different shape on it including the pentagon one...
huge rock are not exactly solid,, they are pile but when they destroy it has yellowish sand on it, and some there are sort of a black portion of soil dont know what exactly is,, that seperate between those huge rock to one another...
the 2 huge portion rock below creates a miniature canal... width of that hole probably a half inch, the lines probably 3 meters,,...
we used a nylon and nail to measure the depth of that hole and 15 ft under..
im just a newbie,, im not as experience as you guys...
your help well be much appreciated in the future...
THANK YOU!!!!
I had no idea that you were digging at all, let alone 40 feet down!! wow
you are a hot babe indeed!! lol
The different color of soil and sand are Jesuit/Spanish trademarks!
One of the things they do, is to sift out all debris from the sand and made
it perfectly higraded and 'pure'/ the black substance is probably charcoal
which again is their trademark, used in 90% of all burials!
Like most I have more questions than answers:
a. Like what made or prompted you to dig where you did??
b. the rock piles, you speak of, looks like it was used as 'filler' did you get this opinion?
c. have you any pics of the pie shaped rocks?
d. have you seen any 'heart shaped rocks' mostly the size of you palm?
e. have you ran into the water table yet?? if not use care as soon you will 'break thru'
f. a clay layer that will be holding back the water table, that will flood your pit!
h. is there a stream nearby?
any thing looking like an miniature canal , is telling your that you need to take care
of the possibility that a flood will occur, you need to take care of the problem.
more pics will help greatly as i can only be general from your descriptions.
Good luck , be careful, have an exit plan if the pit floods suddenly..
make sure that your true tunnel didn't take a right turn, it could have been passed
by and lost, look for numbers, like 4 digits, some may look like a date
ex. 1925, really means dig 19 feet down, then turn right and dig 25 feet back!
If you miss this then you could be digging too far, hit the clay layer, and come
back to find your hole is now flooded , well past the place you should have make
a 90 degree turn. Best thing to do is dig no deeper until you have gone over
everything looking for more instructions. they will not leave you hanging, most
marks are stated then confirmed.. Especially stop if you hit clay!!
we true treasure hunters here will help all we can,
just ignore the naysayers!
auferiously
rangler
" Chicken merry, hawk deh near"...... Caribbean saying meaning:
Be careful when things are going too good for you as its always possible that danger is around the corner.
thanks Rangler...
based on i encounter on that dig...
it wonders me!!
1 - 10 ft below all soil...
10- 40 ft. beyond a file of huge rock,, none soil...
a rock that has lots of different shape on it including the pentagon one...
huge rock are not exactly solid,, they are pile but when they destroy it has yellowish sand on it, and some there are sort of a black portion of soil dont know what exactly is,, that seperate between those huge rock to one another...
the 2 huge portion rock below creates a miniature canal... width of that hole probably a half inch, the lines probably 3 meters,,...
we used a nylon and nail to measure the depth of that hole and 15 ft under..
im just a newbie,, im not as experience as you guys...
your help well be much appreciated in the future...
THANK YOU!!!!
I had no idea that you were digging at all, let alone 40 feet down!! wow
you are a hot babe indeed!! lol
The different color of soil and sand are Jesuit/Spanish trademarks!
One of the things they do, is to sift out all debris from the sand and made
it perfectly higraded and 'pure'/ the black substance is probably charcoal
which again is their trademark, used in 90% of all burials!
Like most I have more questions than answers:
a. Like what made or prompted you to dig where you did??
b. the rock piles, you speak of, looks like it was used as 'filler' did you get this opinion?
c. have you any pics of the pie shaped rocks?
d. have you seen any 'heart shaped rocks' mostly the size of you palm?
e. have you ran into the water table yet?? if not use care as soon you will 'break thru'
f. a clay layer that will be holding back the water table, that will flood your pit!
h. is there a stream nearby?
any thing looking like an miniature canal , is telling your that you need to take care
of the possibility that a flood will occur, you need to take care of the problem.
more pics will help greatly as i can only be general from your descriptions.
Good luck , be careful, have an exit plan if the pit floods suddenly..
make sure that your true tunnel didn't take a right turn, it could have been passed
by and lost, look for numbers, like 4 digits, some may look like a date
ex. 1925, really means dig 19 feet down, then turn right and dig 25 feet back!
If you miss this then you could be digging too far, hit the clay layer, and come
back to find your hole is now flooded , well past the place you should have make
a 90 degree turn. Best thing to do is dig no deeper until you have gone over
everything looking for more instructions. they will not leave you hanging, most
marks are stated then confirmed.. Especially stop if you hit clay!!
we true treasure hunters here will help all we can,
just ignore the naysayers!
auferiously
rangler
" Chicken merry, hawk deh near"...... Caribbean saying meaning:
Be careful when things are going too good for you as its always possible that danger is around the corner.
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Sounds to me like your dig should already have been flooded. The water table must be lower than when the trap was originally engineered. I believe Rangler has the most expertise and has given you very good advice about stopping digging and going over any and all clues that may have been overlooked.
Also listen carefully to his safety advice.
Maybe go back and take a good look at the markings Old Dog has pointed out and see if they give any clues as to the structure of your pit.
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Also listen carefully to his safety advice.
Maybe go back and take a good look at the markings Old Dog has pointed out and see if they give any clues as to the structure of your pit.
Goodyguy~
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hotbabe
Take a look at Old Dogs last pic he outlined what i agree looks like intentional
marks made by a chisel, ableit it well weather worn, the "T" stands out quite
well, and I didnt want to meantion it earlier , as i had no confirmation, but
Old Dogs out lining of the mark just a above that NOW gives two things..
1.) The orientation of the mark, now requires us to
rotate the pic the right 90 degrees!!!
2.) This true orientation now give valuable clues.
That mark above the T now is a backward 7
3.) The 7 is the symbol of Gold for the Jesuits
4. And the T stands for Tesoro, and Thomas
and Tau, the sign of the Truth.
Now add all of this to the fact the the T now on its side, is showing the pit
with the horizontal tunnel!!!, as i have suspected! It looks like the horizontal
tunnel is about 3/4 of the way down the pit, but we cant really tell the depth.
I also notice if that is is correct, your pit seems, if you look close, it seems to
CURVE at the bottom and goes back up vertical, this could be a parallel pit
that is filled with water and is set to release soon as you go too deep and break
thru the plug, the flood will be instanious and in only seconds your pit will be filled
with water! ~Please Stop your digging ANY deeper!!~
you need more data, you need to find out where you are on the diagram on the
rock that Old Dog has outlined and I have decoded for you . Meaning if you are
half way down then you have more to go, if you are more than 3/4 of the way
down you have passed the horizontal tunnel..
Examine the walls of the pit very closely, look for change in soil, look for filled in
area in the pit wall...a discoloration in a circular form, may be the end of the filled
in horizontal tunnel, I suspect it may have been right at the END
of the filled in loose rocks..
perhaps near the charcoal area, if that was in a horizontal layer..?? under the loose
rocks!!
auferiously
rangler
"Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement. Nothing can be done without hope and confidence."
Take a look at Old Dogs last pic he outlined what i agree looks like intentional
marks made by a chisel, ableit it well weather worn, the "T" stands out quite
well, and I didnt want to meantion it earlier , as i had no confirmation, but
Old Dogs out lining of the mark just a above that NOW gives two things..
1.) The orientation of the mark, now requires us to
rotate the pic the right 90 degrees!!!
2.) This true orientation now give valuable clues.
That mark above the T now is a backward 7
3.) The 7 is the symbol of Gold for the Jesuits
4. And the T stands for Tesoro, and Thomas
and Tau, the sign of the Truth.
Now add all of this to the fact the the T now on its side, is showing the pit
with the horizontal tunnel!!!, as i have suspected! It looks like the horizontal
tunnel is about 3/4 of the way down the pit, but we cant really tell the depth.
I also notice if that is is correct, your pit seems, if you look close, it seems to
CURVE at the bottom and goes back up vertical, this could be a parallel pit
that is filled with water and is set to release soon as you go too deep and break
thru the plug, the flood will be instanious and in only seconds your pit will be filled
with water! ~Please Stop your digging ANY deeper!!~
you need more data, you need to find out where you are on the diagram on the
rock that Old Dog has outlined and I have decoded for you . Meaning if you are
half way down then you have more to go, if you are more than 3/4 of the way
down you have passed the horizontal tunnel..
Examine the walls of the pit very closely, look for change in soil, look for filled in
area in the pit wall...a discoloration in a circular form, may be the end of the filled
in horizontal tunnel, I suspect it may have been right at the END
of the filled in loose rocks..
perhaps near the charcoal area, if that was in a horizontal layer..?? under the loose
rocks!!
auferiously
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thanks all..
ill probably add pictures soon,, including at the dig site, if they would let me...
it flooded when its raining, ...
yes had a stream only when it rains, 20m the distance at the dig, and a creek before that and old huge century tree...
im now on vacation,, i cant add some pictures probably ill post here 4 months after... dont have a pc of my own...
most of the structure of rock is similar to the pentagon 1,,
there are no eruption occur, it is an inactive volcano,,
i am tryin to know the history of that place...
thanks once again for those good people round here...
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
"Matthew 7:7-8"
ill probably add pictures soon,, including at the dig site, if they would let me...
it flooded when its raining, ...
yes had a stream only when it rains, 20m the distance at the dig, and a creek before that and old huge century tree...
im now on vacation,, i cant add some pictures probably ill post here 4 months after... dont have a pc of my own...
most of the structure of rock is similar to the pentagon 1,,
there are no eruption occur, it is an inactive volcano,,
i am tryin to know the history of that place...
thanks once again for those good people round here...
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
"Matthew 7:7-8"
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Here is something I discovered while looking a little closer at the turtle pic
What do you guys make of this? Does not appear natural to me.
What do you guys make of this? Does not appear natural to me.
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