help to identify a button plz

[dirtfishing1]

Silver gilded army button with a hand holding a snake and has wings beside it with what looks like a tree between them? Found in Hampshire.

 

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[cti4sw]

pics?

 

[dirtfishing1]

 

[CRUSADER]

It's a Livery Button, circa 1840's

 

[flatbutton]

Nice looking button! Plenty of gilt left on that one. Congrats!

 

[dirtfishing1]

thank you for your help would you be able to help with with another button that was found in the same field please ? will try and upload pic ( im new to this )

 

[DigIron2]

that is nice.must have come out of good ground.will the back clean up any better?

 

[dirtfishing1]

another gold gilded button from the same field also found Elizabeth 1st penny dated around 1558

 

[dirtfishing1]

no, its cleaned up as much as it can

 

[ATpro5]

Your 2nd One Is A Civilian Two-piece Button From The Mid 1800S . What Does The Backmark read

 

[dirtfishing1]

Superior Quality..... cant read the rest

 

[g-olden years]

Welcome to t-net! I've been enjoying t-net for 3 years & have rarely seen dug items with as much gilding still on them as yours! Congrats on finding a good location to detect and dig those older items! HAVE FUN! Andi

 

[CRUSADER]

Its a mid 1800s-late 1800s, if you soak in lemon juice it will clean up good. (make sure you wash with water after soaking)

 

[Kev Woodward]

Its a mid 1800s-late 1800s, if you soak in lemon juice it will clean up good. (make sure you wash with water after soaking)

Not the best treatment for it as you are likely to remove a lot of the coating......just leave it as it is, it's just fine

This is a livery button dating to 1840-1845 (by the back markings) and indicates a double-barrelled name popular at the time when two families joined in marriage. I haven't been able to identify the left hand crest but I'm not the only one British Armorial Bindings and the right hand crest is for one of these families Antique Silver : MyFamilySilver.com my best guess would be Coleman as they are from Wiltshire which is the nearest to you. The 'tree' is actually called a caltrap, a four pronged device used to delay cavalry during medieval times. It is stylised on this crest as in reality one of the four prongs will always be uppermost no matter what attitude it lands on the ground.
Can I use this image for my website please? https://sites.google.com/site/liverybuttonsidentified/

 

[CRUSADER]

Not the best treatment for it as you are likely to remove a lot of the coating......just leave it as it is, it's just fine

This is a livery button dating to 1840-1845 (by the back markings) and indicates a double-barrelled name popular at the time when two families joined in marriage. I haven't been able to identify the left hand crest but I'm not the only one British Armorial Bindings and the right hand crest is for one of these families Antique Silver : MyFamilySilver.com my best guess would be Coleman as they are from Wiltshire which is the nearest to you. The 'tree' is actually called a caltrap, a four pronged device used to delay cavalry during medieval times. It is stylised on this crest as in reality one of the four prongs will always be uppermost no matter what attitude it lands on the ground.
Can I use this image for my website please? https://sites.google.com/site/liverybuttonsidentified/

I've never removed any of the coating (done it a hundred times) with this techique or I would not have suggested it. Have you? It does however turn the low points which are copper a kind of red colour, but overall its a positive effect.

 

[Kev Woodward]

I wasn't being confrontational, just in my experience it can have a detrimental effect if over done which is very easy to do. I guess the finder will make their own decision.

 

[DigIron2]

Lemon juice will bring any gilt out on a button that can be brought out,helps with the back marks too. Soak is probably not the best word to use.I will usually let a button sit in lemon juice maybe a minute or two,scrub with toothbrush,and repeat until desired affect.Once you get the method down,I think it is the best method to use as far as I have found .It can discolor a item,but that would be from over cleaning.nice buttons