✅ SOLVED HELP!! Unknown Indian War era brass/copper device- Unique- Unusual design

[jagdpolizei]

One again, I turn to your expertise and humbly ask for help ID'ing this item.....1.5" long.....unique design....
Hopefully someone out there has seen this before......
Found in Montana 1 mile from one of the earliest Indian Wars forts. It's likely part of a larger item, device, or tool. The edges along the cracked tube end show the un-mistakable appearance of copper....Thanks so much in advance for any help

 

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[Mud Hut]

It's an umbrella/parasol slide.

 

[jagdpolizei]

Great observation......I think you might have nailed it......
This is one of those times when I looked at the item and knew it looked familiar but could not place it. As soon as I read your post, I jumped out at me. Thanks so much. That extra notch in the larger end piece series of notches would be the full extend release button then?

It's an umbrella/parasol slide.

 

[jagdpolizei]

I'm marking this solved.....in only 1/2 hour!! Thanks Mud Hut. Its a parasol 'runner'
From https://www.poplarforest.org/442-2/ I found the exact one. Late 18th century design they say
"Runners similar to this were produced in the late eighteenth century. Our research into this particular part of parasols is currently ongoing!"
They list this photo of the late 18th century parasol on the website.....an exact match

It's an umbrella/parasol slide.

 

[huntsman53]

Nice find! Probably some high class Saloon girl lost it between Saloon gigs unless a Ranch owner was married to a high class lady.


Frank

P.S. That is an interesting member Name/ID "jagdpolizei" or "Hunt Police"! Does that refer to a Game Warden?

 

[jagdpolizei]

Maybe officer wife on an outing with her hubby....or teepee creepin' with an enlisted man

Homicide detective....good decipher on the German though. It's pretty much a made up word..... along line of JagdTiger, JagdPanther, Fallschirmjager, Gerbirgsjager .....denotes hunter of sorts......

Nice find! Probably some high class Saloon girl lost it between Saloon gigs unless a Ranch owner was married to a high class lady.


Frank

P.S. That is an interesting member Name/ID "jagdpolizei" or "Hunt Police"! Does that refer to a Game Warden?

 

[CoilyGirl]

Cool little find!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

I think the poplarforest.org folks are "reaching" too far in dating that form of umbrella shaft runner to "the late 18th Century" (1780s/90s). The text under the poplarforest.org photo you posted says the runner in the photo was excavated from a 20th-Century area. Compare your find with the one shown in the 1875 US Patent diagram, attached below.

Also, compare it with the runner on the excavated 1870s umbrella found by T-Net member Ironman, in the other photos.

 

[jagdpolizei]

Wow.... thanks..... great information..... it definitely fits with the era of the Indian wars

I think the poplarforest.org folks are "reaching" too far in dating that form of umbrella shaft runner to "the late 18th Century" (1780s/90s). The text under the poplarforest.org photo you posted says the runner in the photo was excavated from a 20th-Century area. Compare your find with the one shown in the 1875 US Patent diagram, attached below.

Also, compare it with the runner on the excavated 1870s umbrella found by T-Net member Ironman, in the other photos.