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Looking good GL! Your notches are coming out pretty good! If you have diamond tile saw, you can cut the shape you want first, then do the pressure flaking so you get them more symetrical.

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I am really trying to get away from the straight-up notched bases I am making. I am going to make a side notch tomorrow.
 
I've got about 90 lbs. of Missouri Mozarkite and I want to Knapp 2 points from this for my wife and my best friend who are both Cherokee N.A. .... My problem is I was advised by Todds Point Il. (Gary) that Mozarkite is hard and needs to be heated to be able to Knapp it. Here is where I have a problem, I don't have a means to heat this material and my Arthritis is kicking up a fit ! My question is, is there someone some what close to St. Louis, Missouri that can he this for me? How much would this cost me? I really want to get this done for them ! I want to do this in a N.A. way , just like the N.A. did it back then. Aboriginal (ABO)NO metal or slab saws or copper rods ! I've knapped before but never got to the point of doing a good job of it! Looking for some guidance or help ! I'll defiantly get back with anyone that responds to this! THANKS
 
I'm sure the NA's built a big fire and threw it in. Do you have a fire pit & some old pallets?
 
Thanks for the info newnan man ! I live in the suburbs and they frown on open fires BUT I may talk to my brother about the possibility of doing this over at his home that is out and away from most people. THANKS for prodding my worn out brain !
 
I've got about 90 lbs. of Missouri Mozarkite and I want to Knapp 2 points from this for my wife and my best friend who are both Cherokee N.A. .... My problem is I was advised by Todds Point Il. (Gary) that Mozarkite is hard and needs to be heated to be able to Knapp it. Here is where I have a problem, I don't have a means to heat this material and my Arthritis is kicking up a fit ! My question is, is there someone some what close to St. Louis, Missouri that can he this for me? How much would this cost me? I really want to get this done for them ! I want to do this in a N.A. way , just like the N.A. did it back then. Aboriginal (ABO)NO metal or slab saws or copper rods ! I've knapped before but never got to the point of doing a good job of it! Looking for some guidance or help ! I'll defiantly get back with anyone that responds to this! THANKS
You need to break up the nodules and make spalls. You can cook spalls but you can’t cook whole nodules. The way to do it is bury it in sand that’s dry. Then you start a small fire and let it go out. The heat from the small fire will drive the moisture out of the flint. Wait 6-8 hrs then start a good hot fire. I usually started it late morning and kept it good and hot with lots of coals until dark. The next day clear off the coals that are left. Wait 24 hrs and dig up the spalls. Usually a few are destroyed, a few get heated perfectly, and a few didn’t get hot enough. If you have access to a kiln, heat slowly until you reach 550° and hold it there for 8 hrs.
 
I've got about 90 lbs. of Missouri Mozarkite and I want to Knapp 2 points from this for my wife and my best friend who are both Cherokee N.A. .... My problem is I was advised by Todds Point Il. (Gary) that Mozarkite is hard and needs to be heated to be able to Knapp it. Here is where I have a problem, I don't have a means to heat this material and my Arthritis is kicking up a fit ! My question is, is there someone some what close to St. Louis, Missouri that can he this for me? How much would this cost me? I really want to get this done for them ! I want to do this in a N.A. way , just like the N.A. did it back then. Aboriginal (ABO)NO metal or slab saws or copper rods ! I've knapped before but never got to the point of doing a good job of it! Looking for some guidance or help ! I'll defiantly get back with anyone that responds to this! THANKS
To heat treat Mozarkite rock for knapping, you typically need to reach a temperature of approximately 550°F (288°C). The precise optimal temperature may vary, so it is recommended to test small flakes of the specific material first.

Heat Treatment Procedure
The key to successful heat treatment is slow and controlled heating and cooling to avoid thermal shock, which can cause the rock to crack or explode

1: Drying Phase: Dry the stone at a low temperature, around 200°F (93°C), for 8 to 24 hours to remove all moisture.

2: Ramp-Up Phase: Slowly increase the temperature to the target of 550°F.

.For Mozarkite, a slow ramp-up rate of 20-30°F (approx. 11-17°C) per hour is recommended.
.Bury the stone in a medium like fine sand or vermiculite in a container (like a turkey roaster or kiln) to ensure even heating.

3: Soak Phase: Hold the maximum temperature (around 550°F) for several hours (e.g., 4 to 8 hours, or longer for thicker pieces) to ensure the heat penetrates the entire stone.
4: Cool-Down Phase: Turn off the heat and allow the stone to cool down very slowly within the container (still buried in sand). This can take 12 hours or even a full day or two, depending on the thickness of the rock. Do not open the container or try to speed up the cooling process.
Testing and Indicators
Test Pieces: Always start by experimenting with small, less valuable pieces or flakes to find the optimal temperature and time for your specific batch of Mozarkite.

Visual Check: Successfully heat-treated stone will exhibit a noticeable change, typically developing a glossy or satin-like finish on the flake scars, compared to the duller, non-reflective surface of the raw stone.
Workability: The heat-treated stone should feel more brittle and easier to flake, allowing for the creation of thinner, sharper edges.
 
Thankyou Gary & pepperj for your advise on this subject.! I think I'll push my luck and try a small batch of a few pieces . I'll try it at home and keep it small as to NOT involve complaints from anyone ! Thanks again for all of your help! I'll have to clear off the unwanted surrounding waste rock and try to Bop off some Spars to heat up ! I'm tempted to slab off a few BUT I want to do this totally ABO. And my Arthritis is already kicking my behind ! :):) This is turning out to be my Winter project !
 
The cold weather has passed (for now) and I'm going out back to try to clean off the waste rock on my pile ! I need to see what I've got to work with ! It may be just a pile of waste rock !
 

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