I.D. Help Please

[Joshr29]

It was raining here today so I was going through some of my boxes of uncleaned bottles. I have always loved this one I just haven't got around to posting it. It was found here in Texas in a dump from the mid to late 19th century. I can't find anything about it on the Internet. The base has a diamond with 219 inside of it. The mold seam stops before the lip. I think a lipping tool may have been used. Also it is 12 inches tall. Thanks everyone. HH

 

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[bottlehunterofcoscob]

That is a very unique base. Cool find!

 

[bottlehunterofcoscob]

Sorry. Meant to say neck

 

[Joshr29]

Thanks. The neck is the main reason I want info on it. I thought it was pretty unique. Thanks for the comment. HH

 

[Joshr29]

I can't believe it but I solved this one myself. It is a Boker Bitters bottle made by the Illinois Glass Company. I found it in the 1906 catalog.

 

[Joshr29]

Also, if it interests anyone, this bottle's design is called a Lady Leg. Thought that was interesting.

 

[epackage]

Yeah it's a later bitters, earlier ones had this style lip instead of a crown top. They came in some nice colors and many are embossed and some bring huge money in the $5-6000 range...

 

[Joshr29]

Thanks for the comment. It looks like mine if mine wasn't so chipped and still had the label it would be worth 50 or more. It's probably only 5 or 10 in its current shape but I really don't expect to make money off this hobby.

 

[epackage]

Finding a labeled one would be nice, I'm in search of this example from Paterson. I've never seen an actual bottle, only these signs and stoneware jugs....

 

[Joshr29]

That is a nice bottle. I did some searching and all i can find is braems signs for sale. No bottles. Good luck on your hunt. I hope you find it. HH

 

[PikesPeakCharlie]

I've never had the honor of diggin a ladys leg,have owned a couple in the past,but must say,thats the first crown cap ladys leg I've seen.

 

[Joshr29]

Interesting. I wonder if it is somewhat rare. I would just want to know for myself. I've sold very few bottles and they were doubles in my collection when I did. Thanks everyone. HH

 

[Harry Pristis]

I've never had the honor of diggin a ladys leg,have owned a couple in the past,but must say,thats the first crown cap ladys leg I've seen.

My first, too, Charlie! There's something cognitively dissonant about the combination of features. Anyone have another twentieth century lady's leg bottle to show us?
Mine are all eighteenth or nineteenth century bottles:

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[Joshr29]

Are you saying that mine is from the 20th century. Upon close inspection it really looks like the seam ends before the lip. I am just an amateur at this hoppy though. Thanks everyone for the help.

 

[bottlehunterofcoscob]

My first, too, Charlie! There's something cognitively dissonant about the combination of features. Anyone have another twentieth century lady's leg bottle to show us?
Mine are all eighteenth or nineteenth century bottles:
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Here's a nice Gaelic Old Smuggler bottle I dug in a three piece mold. It doesn't have a super dramatic lady's leg, but it's still cool.

 

[surf]

Hey Josh,

I've never seen a crown cap lady's leg either. Nine chances out of ten, it's an early 20th Century bottle. The "216" in the Illinois Glass Diamond is the mould number. I believe the IG Catalog is using "Boker Bitters" generically for the style of bottle.

Illinois Glass Co. 1906 Catalog

You'll notice the 1906 catalog shows a champagne finish on the bottle. If you read the SHA site, Bill Lindsey sez that the lady's legs were often used for various spirits.

Get all macro with your camera on the finish, will'ya?

Boker's bitters​

"Defunct proprietary New York-based digestive bitters brand of presumed cardamom character called for in 19th century cocktail guides as aromatic bitters. No evidence of manufacture after Prohibition, or indeed after the advent of the 20th century."

Though there is this listing from 1918: "Stomach Bitters, Imported by JG & J Boker, New York City" Treasury decisions under internal revenue laws of the United States - United States. Office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue - Google Books

The Martinez Cocktail
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[bottlehunterofcoscob]

Here's a nice Gaelic Old Smuggler bottle I dug in a three piece mold. It doesn't have a super dramatic lady's leg, but it's still cool.

Just looked at what I posted. Silly me that's nineteenth century. Stupid

 

[MrSchulz]

Very nice early bottle, I would of said blank beer, but it being a bitters, thats new to me.

HH
MrSchulz

 

[surf]

Here's a nice Gaelic Old Smuggler bottle I dug in a three piece mold. It doesn't have a super dramatic lady's leg, but it's still cool.

Hey bhofcc,

Some folks think these bulge necked English/Irish TOC whiskys are "lady's legs." They're not, as I understand the reference. To be considered a true "lady's leg," the "lady" must have the super elongated neck style that is characteristic of the sort that several people have posted examples.

 

[bottlehunterofcoscob]

Hey bhofcc,

Some folks think these bulge necked English/Irish TOC whiskys are "lady's legs." They're not, as I understand the reference. To be considered a true "lady's leg," the "lady" must have the super elongated neck style that is characteristic of the sort that several people have posted examples.

Always learning. I've seen this called a lady's leg on the Internet. Internet can be misleading.